Forum talk:New Weapon Idea...

Um, Isaac? This was all your idea. I don't care about sidearms. But if there's anything you need help with about this idea, I can help you. User:Primus Draug'oth (talk)

So, what kind of an idea do you have in mind? Dante the Ghost (talk) 23:44, 30 June 2016 (EDT)

Well, this is my little brother's idea, but in the explanation somewhere, it says that this sidearm has a scope to help with precision, which, well, makes no sense. A sidearm is supposed to be something that you can pull out in a pinch and use to quickly react to attackers at close range. Give it a scope, and its handling characteristics become those of a typical sniper rifle, which would be bad for this weapon (Isaac, please don't kill me). Also, sidearms are only to be effective at close, and sometimes, middle range engagements; this is not supposed to be a long range instrument of precision. But maybe there can be some accuracy-increasing perks like Hidden Hand, Hot Swap or Rangefinder. Also, since there are three different firing modes, they should alter the stats: semi-auto (default firing mode) should give bonuses to range and impact while limiting the rate of fire; burst-mode should give a bonus to rate of fire and stability but a penalty to impact; full-auto should push the rate of fire to its max while also upping the impact at the cost of a slight penalty to range. Those are my suggestions for him so far. Primus Draug'oth (talk) 06:50, 1 July 2016 (EST)

Nuke the scope idea, since I agree with you. Honestly, what use does a scope have for what is essentially a smaller version of the hand cannon, which is an oversized pistol? Hand guns don't have scopes, so neither do sidearms (or hand cannons). Altering the modes of fire, yeah, that can be good. I don't like the semi-auto. I'd rather like the hand cannon's mode of fire for the sidearm, really. Dante the Ghost (talk) 14:11, 1 July 2016 (EDT)

That's exactly my point with the scope; there's just no use for it on a weapon like this: zero, nada, zilch. Besides, since when have you seen a handgun in this game come with a scope? I'll tell you: never (LOL). But isn't semi-auto already the default firing mode for both hand cannons and sidearms alike? Because they both fire one round with each trigger pull. Primus Draug'oth (talk) 15:41, 1 July 2016 (EST)

Wait... I'm confusing semi-auto with burst-mode. I've only used the Vestian Dynasty and Dreg's Promise. So... forget what I said earlier. A chance to switch firing modes would still be awesome. Dante the Ghost (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2016 (EDT)

Ok, then. Anyway, yeah, switching firing modes would be a great mechanic, especially if we could do it on the fly. Now, you have any ideas? Primus Draug'oth (talk) 16:30, 1 July 2016 (EST)

I don't really know, unless it be for a new Exotic or something with a bit of interesting lore attached to it. Gameplay-wise, we've covered it. Dante the Ghost (talk) 16:41, 1 July 2016 (EDT)

Well, we need the stats and perks, don't we? But let's shove that to the side for now and focus on the lore, maybe write a Grimoire Card including the foundry it came from, how and why it was created, and the results, although that would be a long and somewhat exhaustive process. Primus Draug'oth (talk) 17:01, 1 July 2016 (EST)

Hey guys, thank you so much for helping me and my brother perfect this weapon. Sorry I haven't been active, but for the lore, I think this weapon was intended to be used by someone or they actually used it. Cayde-6? That guys that died in the vault but is being pulled through time? What do you think? What if it switching firing modes was in the last column of the upgrade tree? Maybe there is a way to activate another mode due to a cycling mode system that is triggered by a button combination. Sniper Vandal (talk)

Oh, hey bro. I was just getting to that. Dante and I have covered the gameplay mechanics; now we need to get to the lore. Now, for a start, a weapon once used by Cayde would be interesting and unique, and then he would pass it down to the next generation of Guardians (the current generation). But where does this whole "being pulled through time" thing have to do with this? Were the Vex involved in any of this? These are the questions to think about. Primus Draug'oth (talk)

I thought the Ace of Spades was Cayde's weapon... Interesting theory about the Vault of Glass. But lore has indicated no other fireteam beyond Kabr's and the player Guardian's has ever ventured into the Vault. Only one succeeded, and that on the footsteps of the one that didn't. Dante the Ghost (talk) 19:30, 1 July 2016 (EDT)