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The development of a personal throne world is the natural result of reaching a certain level of power under the [[The Sword Logic|sword logic]].<ref name="Weak"/> All laws within these realms obey that logic, even other paracausal forces, such as the [[Light]].<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIX:_open_your_eye_:_go_into_it|XXXIX: open your eye : go into it]]''</ref> They are completely immune to the effects of paracausal weaponry, such as the [[Harbinger]]s of the [[Awoken]], being spiritual worlds created from the mind of their resident god.<ref name="Weak"/> If the god is killed, they persist still as all Throne Worlds are located and connected on the Ascendant realm's plane..<ref name ="Hellmouth">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Places/Moon#Ghost_Fragment:_The_Hellmouth|Ghost Fragment: The Hellmouth]]''</ref> This labyrinthine space is also called the "Overworld", and the "Sea of Screams", in which the Hive thrones reside in, with green-black "suns" mentioned as a source of light or reference point.<ref name ="Hellmouth"/>  
The development of a personal throne world is the natural result of reaching a certain level of power under the [[The Sword Logic|sword logic]].<ref name="Weak"/> All laws within these realms obey that logic, even other paracausal forces, such as the [[Light]].<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIX:_open_your_eye_:_go_into_it|XXXIX: open your eye : go into it]]''</ref> They are completely immune to the effects of paracausal weaponry, such as the [[Harbinger]]s of the [[Awoken]], being spiritual worlds created from the mind of their resident god.<ref name="Weak"/> If the god is killed, they persist still as all Throne Worlds are located and connected on the Ascendant realm's plane..<ref name ="Hellmouth">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Places/Moon#Ghost_Fragment:_The_Hellmouth|Ghost Fragment: The Hellmouth]]''</ref> This labyrinthine space is also called the "Overworld", and the "Sea of Screams", in which the Hive thrones reside in, with green-black "suns" mentioned as a source of light or reference point.<ref name ="Hellmouth"/>  


Throne Worlds have a connection to the Deep, the Worm Gods naturally living close to that connection while Oryx built a pathway and altar to communicate.<ref name="King"/> If one of the Hive Gods is slain in the material world, or in another god's Throne, their soul will pass to their throne where they will regain their strength until they can re-enter the material world; this can potentially be accelerated by the sacrifice of lesser Hive.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"The soul of a Hive is sleeping inside. The Disciples of Osiris believe Ascendant Hive can be reborn in our realm when the time is right and with the sacrifice of lesser Hive souls. I think this one is marked for sacrifice"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-sacrificial-stone Ghost Scans]: Sacrificial Stone''</ref> If they are killed within their own throne, they will die permanently.<ref name="Weak"/> The lesser Hive may enter the Ascendant realm at will,<ref name="Crota"/> but only if they are [[Ascendant Hive]], those Hive warriors who command legions of lesser soldiers and can pay a tithe of death and destruction to the Hive god who rules them.<ref name="Carved"/>
Throne Worlds have a connection to the Deep, the Worm Gods naturally living close to that connection while Oryx built a pathway and altar to communicate. If one of the Hive Gods is slain in the material world, or in another god's Throne, their soul will pass to their throne where they will regain their strength until they can re-enter the material world; this can potentially be accelerated by the sacrifice of lesser Hive.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"The soul of a Hive is sleeping inside. The Disciples of Osiris believe Ascendant Hive can be reborn in our realm when the time is right and with the sacrifice of lesser Hive souls. I think this one is marked for sacrifice"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-sacrificial-stone Ghost Scans]: Sacrificial Stone''</ref> If they are killed within their own throne, they will die permanently.<ref name="Weak"/> The lesser Hive may enter the Ascendant realm at will,<ref name="Crota"/> but only if they are [[Ascendant Hive]], those Hive warriors who command legions of lesser soldiers and can pay a tithe of death and destruction to the Hive god who rules them.<ref name="Carved"/>


Other beings can apparently and independently enter the Ascendant plane separate from the Darkness, as evidenced when the [[Harmony]] wishful bishops "wrestled" with Xivu Arath near her throne.<ref name="Gift">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLVI:_The_Gift_Mast|XLVI: The Gift Mast]]''</ref> [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]] is also a powerful example, as he fell into the [[Hellmouth]] as a [[Dreg]] and somehow gained Ascendant status, forging his own Throne within the Ascendant realm.<ref name=GameInformer>[https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/07/05/these-are-the-eight-barons-who-helped-kill-cayde-6-in-destiny-2-forsaken '''Game Informer''': ''These Are The Eight Barons Who Helped Kill Cayde-6 In Destiny 2: Forsaken'']</ref>
Other beings can apparently and independently enter the Ascendant plane separate from the Darkness, as evidenced when the [[Harmony]] wishful bishops "wrestled" with Xivu Arath near her throne.<ref name="Gift">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLVI:_The_Gift_Mast|XLVI: The Gift Mast]]''</ref> [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]] is also a powerful example, as he fell into the [[Hellmouth]] as a [[Dreg]] and somehow gained Ascendant status, forging his own Throne within the Ascendant realm.<ref name=GameInformer>[https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/07/05/these-are-the-eight-barons-who-helped-kill-cayde-6-in-destiny-2-forsaken '''Game Informer''': ''These Are The Eight Barons Who Helped Kill Cayde-6 In Destiny 2: Forsaken'']</ref>
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The Ascendant plane was first discovered by Auryx when Savathûn killed him for negotiating with the [[Ammonite]]s, and the innate power it held when the Worm Gods told him to slay his Hive and observe the effects.<ref name="Weak"/> These realms would prove to be a boon in the Hive's quest for immortality as they warred amongst themselves to deepen their power and understanding<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXI:_an_incision|XXI: an incision]]''</ref> and during the war with the [[Ecumene]] giving them a place in which to recover.<ref name="Carved"/>
The Ascendant plane was first discovered by Auryx when Savathûn killed him for negotiating with the [[Ammonite]]s, and the innate power it held when the Worm Gods told him to slay his Hive and observe the effects.<ref name="Weak"/> These realms would prove to be a boon in the Hive's quest for immortality as they warred amongst themselves to deepen their power and understanding<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXI:_an_incision|XXI: an incision]]''</ref> and during the war with the [[Ecumene]] giving them a place in which to recover.<ref name="Carved"/>


During the war with the [[Ecumene]], Auryx and his sisters were on the verge of defeat, and so met in his throne to find a way; Auryx killed them after discussion to gain the necessary strength.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXVI:_star_by_star_by_star|XXVI: star by star by star]]''</ref> He then traveled the Ascendant plane in search of the Worm God Akka, to take the power needed to save himself and the Hive.<ref name="King"/> Oryx would later return to explore the Ascendant plane more, trying to unlock the secrets of [[Darkness|The Deep]].<ref name="Partition">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXVIII:_The_partition_of_death|XXXVIII: The partition of death]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIV:_More_beautiful_to_know|XXXIV: More beautiful to know]]''</ref> He would later move his throne world "outside" of the Ascendant realm when he built his [[Dreadnaught]], turning it inside out and pouring it into the material plane.<ref name="Dread">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLI: Dreadnaught|XLI: Dreadnaught]]''</ref>
During the war with the [[Ecumene]], Auryx and his sisters were on the verge of defeat, and so met in his throne to find a way; Auryx killed them after discussion to gain the necessary strength.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXVI:_star_by_star_by_star|XXVI: star by star by star]]''</ref> He then traveled the Ascendant plane in search of the Worm God Akka, to take the power needed to save himself and the Hive. Oryx would later return to explore the Ascendant plane more, trying to unlock the secrets of [[Darkness|The Deep]].<ref name="Partition">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXVIII:_The_partition_of_death|XXXVIII: The partition of death]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIV:_More_beautiful_to_know|XXXIV: More beautiful to know]]''</ref> He would later move his throne world "outside" of the Ascendant realm when he built his [[Dreadnaught]], turning it inside out and pouring it into the material plane.<ref name="Dread">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLI: Dreadnaught|XLI: Dreadnaught]]''</ref>


Only five times have been recorded in which these realms were breached: the [[Vex]]; the Harmony wishful bishops; and twice by the [[Guardian]]s of [[Earth]]. The Vex were let into the High War by Savathûn tricking her nephew and proved difficult to dislodge.<ref name="Partition"/> Later the Harmony wishful bishops stalemated with Xivu Arath until her sister came to her aid.<ref name="Gift"/> Finally, many years later, Crota's own realm was [[Crota's End|breached]] and the God-Prince killed;<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/12)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#Crota.27s_End|Crota's End]]''</ref> and Oryx's invaded twice by Guardians, who first [[Regicide|killed]] his material form and later [[King's Fall|hunted]] his true self to extinction.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#King.27s_Fall|King's Fall]]''</ref> The sole exception is [[Toland, the Shattered]]; instead of breaching it, Toland was ''allowed'' to enter the Ascendant plane by [[Ir Yût]], who did so by killing him with her Deathsong. This gave him greater insight into the Hive, but his true purpose was to search for [[Osiris]].<ref name = "Hellmouth"/>
Only five times have been recorded in which these realms were breached: the [[Vex]]; the Harmony wishful bishops; and twice by the [[Guardian]]s of [[Earth]]. The Vex were let into the High War by Savathûn tricking her nephew and proved difficult to dislodge.<ref name="Partition"/> Later the Harmony wishful bishops stalemated with Xivu Arath until her sister came to her aid.<ref name="Gift"/> Finally, many years later, Crota's own realm was [[Crota's End|breached]] and the God-Prince killed;<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/12)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#Crota.27s_End|Crota's End]]''</ref> and Oryx's invaded twice by Guardians, who first [[Regicide|killed]] his material form and later [[King's Fall|hunted]] his true self to extinction.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#King.27s_Fall|King's Fall]]''</ref> The sole exception is [[Toland, the Shattered]]; instead of breaching it, Toland was ''allowed'' to enter the Ascendant plane by [[Ir Yût]], who did so by killing him with her Deathsong. This gave him greater insight into the Hive, but his true purpose was to search for [[Osiris]].<ref name = "Hellmouth"/>

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Ascendant Realm
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Overview

Location:

Transdimensional Space

Gameplay

Accessibility:

Crota's End
King's Fall
Patrol Dreaming City
Target: The Mindbender

Player capacity:

1-6

 

"Whispered lore and fragmentary theories suggest that Crota represents a distinct class of Hive entities, not resident in our material world. My latest synthesis of this scattered esoterica suggests that Crota's 'home' is a universe created or remade by his power and occupied by Hive organisms of immense age."
— Ikora Rey[1]

The Ascendant realm (also known as the Netherworld, Overworld, or Sea of Screams[2]) is an alternate, eldritch universe ruled by the gods of the Hive, and the Fallen.[3][1] Each Hive deity—Oryx, Savathûn, Xivu Arath, Crota, along with the Scorn Baron known as Hiraks, the Mindbender, rules their own Throne world within the Ascendant realm, where they have absolute power over it through the Sword-Logic. The Worm Gods, a higher group in the Hive pantheon, also dwell in a deeper part of the Ascendant realm, much closer to The Deep.[4]

Characteristics

The development of a personal throne world is the natural result of reaching a certain level of power under the sword logic.[3] All laws within these realms obey that logic, even other paracausal forces, such as the Light.[5] They are completely immune to the effects of paracausal weaponry, such as the Harbingers of the Awoken, being spiritual worlds created from the mind of their resident god.[3] If the god is killed, they persist still as all Throne Worlds are located and connected on the Ascendant realm's plane..[6] This labyrinthine space is also called the "Overworld", and the "Sea of Screams", in which the Hive thrones reside in, with green-black "suns" mentioned as a source of light or reference point.[6]

Throne Worlds have a connection to the Deep, the Worm Gods naturally living close to that connection while Oryx built a pathway and altar to communicate. If one of the Hive Gods is slain in the material world, or in another god's Throne, their soul will pass to their throne where they will regain their strength until they can re-enter the material world; this can potentially be accelerated by the sacrifice of lesser Hive.[7] If they are killed within their own throne, they will die permanently.[3] The lesser Hive may enter the Ascendant realm at will,[1] but only if they are Ascendant Hive, those Hive warriors who command legions of lesser soldiers and can pay a tithe of death and destruction to the Hive god who rules them.[2]

Other beings can apparently and independently enter the Ascendant plane separate from the Darkness, as evidenced when the Harmony wishful bishops "wrestled" with Xivu Arath near her throne.[8] Hiraks, the Mindbender is also a powerful example, as he fell into the Hellmouth as a Dreg and somehow gained Ascendant status, forging his own Throne within the Ascendant realm.[9]

The Ascendant realm can also seemingly pull locations in our world into itself as well, as it did with the Dreaming City.[10] Asteroid 128 Nemesis within The Reef also phase shifts between our world and the Ascendant realm, due to experimentation upon it by Hiraks, the Mindbender.[9]

History

The Ascendant plane was first discovered by Auryx when Savathûn killed him for negotiating with the Ammonites, and the innate power it held when the Worm Gods told him to slay his Hive and observe the effects.[3] These realms would prove to be a boon in the Hive's quest for immortality as they warred amongst themselves to deepen their power and understanding[11] and during the war with the Ecumene giving them a place in which to recover.[2]

During the war with the Ecumene, Auryx and his sisters were on the verge of defeat, and so met in his throne to find a way; Auryx killed them after discussion to gain the necessary strength.[12] He then traveled the Ascendant plane in search of the Worm God Akka, to take the power needed to save himself and the Hive. Oryx would later return to explore the Ascendant plane more, trying to unlock the secrets of The Deep.[13][14] He would later move his throne world "outside" of the Ascendant realm when he built his Dreadnaught, turning it inside out and pouring it into the material plane.[15]

Only five times have been recorded in which these realms were breached: the Vex; the Harmony wishful bishops; and twice by the Guardians of Earth. The Vex were let into the High War by Savathûn tricking her nephew and proved difficult to dislodge.[13] Later the Harmony wishful bishops stalemated with Xivu Arath until her sister came to her aid.[8] Finally, many years later, Crota's own realm was breached and the God-Prince killed;[16] and Oryx's invaded twice by Guardians, who first killed his material form and later hunted his true self to extinction.[17] The sole exception is Toland, the Shattered; instead of breaching it, Toland was allowed to enter the Ascendant plane by Ir Yût, who did so by killing him with her Deathsong. This gave him greater insight into the Hive, but his true purpose was to search for Osiris.[6]

At some point, Hiraks fell into the Hellmouth, surviving and learning to harness the power of the realm for his own purposes. He later used the power to pull Asteroid 128 Nemesis between our world and the Ascendant realm.[9]

Despite Oryx's defeat, a number of worrying reports during the Red War indicate that something is trying to communicate from the Ascendant realm to scattered Hive forces on Io.[18][19][20][21][22]

At an unknown point, the Dreaming City was pulled into the Ascendant realm, trapping it in a perpetual state within both the realm and our world.

Known Throne Worlds & Locales

List of appearances

References

  1. ^ a b c Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Crota, Son of Oryx
  2. ^ a b c Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXIX: Carved in Ruin
  3. ^ a b c d e f g h Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XVII: The Weakest Verse
  4. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XIX: Crusaders
  5. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXIX: open your eye : go into it
  6. ^ a b c Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Ghost Fragment: The Hellmouth
  7. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "The soul of a Hive is sleeping inside. The Disciples of Osiris believe Ascendant Hive can be reborn in our realm when the time is right and with the sacrifice of lesser Hive souls. I think this one is marked for sacrifice", Ghost Scans: Sacrificial Stone
  8. ^ a b Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XLVI: The Gift Mast
  9. ^ a b c d Game Informer: These Are The Eight Barons Who Helped Kill Cayde-6 In Destiny 2: Forsaken
  10. ^ https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/
  11. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXI: an incision
  12. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXVI: star by star by star
  13. ^ a b Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXVIII: The partition of death
  14. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXIV: More beautiful to know
  15. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: The Taken King Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XLI: Dreadnaught
  16. ^ Bungie (2014/9/12), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Crota's End
  17. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: King's Fall
  18. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "I think these blights are like transmitters. They're either calling out to something, or... letting something whisper to the Taken here on Io", Ghost Scans: IO-WM-3
  19. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "Ascendant Realm readings in spades here. Down the line this could be another one of those weird portals. The Taken are so strange", Ghost Scans: IO-EXS-1
  20. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "Listen. It sounds like... It sounds like someone's whispering in there. Over and over". Eugh, Ghost Scans: IO-EXS-2
  21. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "I'm detecting… I think this is sending a message back to the Ascendant Realm. But who's listening?", Ghost Scan: Excavation Site II, Io, #3: IO-EXS-3
  22. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, "This is sending out some kind of resonant signal. The same syllables, over and over: Sa... Va... Thun...", Ghost Scans: IO-TBC-3
  23. ^ Bungie (2015/15/9), Destiny: The Taken King, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXII: The High War
  24. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Story Mission Last Rites
  25. ^ https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/

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Hive sects
Arsenal
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Strongholds
Religious
Consumables
Materials

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Fallen
Fallen infantry
Dreg • Wretch • Marauder • Vandal • Captain
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Heavy infantry
Command
Religious
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Other groups
Strongholds
Fallen arsenal
Other technology
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Taken
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Strongholds

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The Sol System
Inner system
Asteroid belt
Outer system
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