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The Nine
Overview
Other name(s):	IX ; Ennead
Domain(s):	Unknown Space ; Solar System Planetary Bodies ; Milky Way
Engagements:	Wolf Rebellion (catalyst)
Leadership:	Sun (implied) ; Mercury ; Venus ; Earth ; Mars ; Saturn ; Jupiter ; Neptune ; Uranus ; Pluto (implied)
Notable information:	Released Skolas, Kell of Kells ; Hosted the Trials of the Nine

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"A COURT
A V A U L T
A Maelstrom.
a cauldron.
Of what?
OF STARS
O F N I N E"

— The Nine

The Nine (often represented as the IX), also known as the ennead, are a group of enigmatic entities affiliated with the planets of the Sol System. They control Unknown Space, a mysterious realm whose nature is poorly understood.^[2]

Overview[edit]

"You want our source, our primal cause?
WE ARE THE SHADOWS OF YOUR WORLDS' MASS."

— The Nine^[3]

The Nine are sentient beings composed of dark matter, which developed cognition after being pulled into loops by the gravity of Sol and its planets. Their existence is predicated on the existence of those planets, particularly the life that developed on them, as the motions of lifeforms cause gravitational perturbations that drive the Nine's ability to think. The Nine's primary concern is sustaining their own existence, whether by protecting the life on which they depend or by finding a way to end their reliance on it.

Despite their virtual omnipresence within the Sol System and the universe with their influence of Dark Matter, the scope of their power over the world of "normal" matter is limited, and so they primarily act through a handful of agents, emissaries, and associates. They appear to be capable of freely manipulating the dark matter that composes themselves.^[4] They are also able to manipulate and even synthesize regular matter under certain circumstances, such as through the portals of Cocytus.

At present, the Nine are divided into two factions. One faction, consisting of five members, seeks to study the Light and use it for their own purposes, and is responsible for sending Xûr, Agent of the Nine and The Emissary to interact with the Guardians. The other four seek to free themselves from their dependence on matter-based life and the Light, and to that end have experimented with creating their own realms through spacetime engineering and the creation of dark matter-based black holes, which would serve as gravitational foci independent from those provided by the realm of normal matter.

The Nine appear to have some ability to predict or see the future; the Prophecy Dungeon includes symbolic representations of future events such as the rise of Eramis, the disappearance of Io, Mars, Mercury and Titan following the arrival of the Black Fleet and later arrival of Empress Caiatl in the Sol System.

History[edit]

Origins[edit]

As revealed by the Nine to Lavinia Garcia Umr Tawil, the Nine originated from streams of dark matter particles passing through the galaxy and the solar system. As dark matter only interacts with normal matter through gravity, these streams were drawn to the cores of the Sun and its orbiting planets. The infalling dark matter was then flung back into space, before being pulled in again to form endless loops. These loops formed the basis of emergent consciousnesses that would become the Nine.

The Nine did not truly "awaken" until life evolved within the solar system. The movements of lifeforms resulted in perturbations to the loops of dark matter particles cycling through each celestial body, creating waves that formed the basis of complex thoughts. According to Lavinia, the dark matter of the Nine passes through every living thing and every iota of matter in the solar system.^[5]

The Nine were cognizant of their dependence on all life and the worlds of the Sol System: if that life ended, so too would the Nine as thinking entities. They began searching for a way to end that dependence and sustain their existence independent of it. Two factions emerged after the arrival of the Traveler to Sol: one faction sought to harness the paracausal properties of Light to construct living bodies for themselves out of regular matter, the other seeking to create a pocket universe with physical laws that could accommodate them.^[4]

City Age[edit]

"He says the Nine are vulnerable every moment they touch our world."

— Brother Vance^[6]

For most of the City Age, little of the Nine was known outside of the cryptic sayings of Xûr, Agent of the Nine.^[7] Osiris is said to have met with the Nine on Europa,^[6] and before his exile had an obsessive interest in them to the exclusion of his duties as the Warlock Vanguard.^[8] Nonetheless the Nine had a vested interest in helping the City, tasking Xûr to sell powerful weapons to Guardians.^[7] Following the Red War, the Nine have taken an active interest in Guardians, and hosted the Trials of the Nine through their proxy, The Emissary.^[9] Emperor Calus is dismissive of their efforts.^[10]

The Nine have an alliance of sorts with the Reef, but their loyalty is in doubt following the release of Skolas, Kell of Kells at their command.^[11]^[12] The Cabal know of them as the Ennead.^{[note 1]}^[1]

Reef Wars[edit]

During the Reef Wars, the Queen's Wrath Sjur Eido was killed by an unknown party, and her bow stolen. A strange coin was left on her body as "weregild", suggesting that the Nine were in some way involved with her death.^[13]

Arrival of the Taken King[edit]

Shortly after the battle of Saturn, when Oryx invaded the Dreaming City, the Nine debated about what to do regarding Oryx's incursion, for he threatened all life. Some members seemed to blame Mara Sov for worsening the situation, claiming that her actions had "ruined everything." Oryx soon took Riven, after which the Nine were driven into a frenzy. During this time they would debate whether or not to destroy the Ahamkara, and if they did "Done cannot be undone! Everything is lost!" Although their wording is ambiguous, the Reextinction lore entry suggests communications between the Nine during this time indicate that they knew of surviving Ahamkara other than Riven and that they killed them in order to prevent them from falling into Oryx's grasp.^[14]

The Red War[edit]

Sometime during or before the Red War^[15] an Awoken named Orin (and potentially an agent of Mara Sov^[16]) sought out nine Ghosts who had gone beyond the Solar System and inquired after their findings. Receiving only a set of coordinates she left them.^[17] She also found several "deep-orbit minds" in the midst of her search.^[18] Orin soon encountered some of the Nine herself.^[19] After warning her of the possibility of going mad from the conversation^[20]^[21]^[22] and of a potential price as consequence,^[23] they tasked her with finding three "worthy keys".^[24] They then commended her for seeking them out, for her resourcefulness in acquiring a ship and her decision to avoid "a golden snake who poses as a god".^[25]

One of the Nine was responsible for blinding the Guardians to the arrival of the Red Legion, allowing Ghaul to successfully attack and occupy the City. This member of the Nine did so with the goal of learning how to take the Light, but that particular member of the Nine was severely punished, as Ghaul's success led to the deployment of the Almighty, which would have destroyed the Sol system along with the Nine had it not been disabled.^[26]^[27]

Whether before or after Orin/the Awoken agent visits them, the Nine speak of two significant events. The first event is with expectation and appears to be Mara Sov's plan with her Techeuns. They are confident that her fall is inevitable for the odds she plays with have been weighted by them.^[28] The second event is tinged with overtones of regret and sadness; the Nine lament their slaughter of the remaining Ahamkara after Riven was taken by Oryx.^{[note 2]} Regardless of the specifics, one member urges the rest to "rid [themselves] of regret".^[29]

Forsaken[edit]

During the Guardian's third visit to Mara Sov's throne, the Queen was seen talking to The Emissary, saying that she agreed with the Nine's terms regarding an "asset" to be stationed "beyond the grave of the First Fleet". She then told the Emissary to remind the Nine that she had shown enough patience regarding the matter. The Emissary leaves and Sov warns the Guardian not to get involved in the Nine's schemes, claiming that they never end.^[30]

At an unknown time after the curse was unleashed upon the Dreaming City, the Nine argued with The Emissary regarding her status as a pawn of the Nine, Mara Sov's plan, and an oncoming storm. During the conversation, the Emissary pointed out the fact that seemingly only five of the Nine were present, which the Nine admitted was true. ^[31]

Season of the Drifter[edit]

During her surveillance of the Drifter, the Praxic Warlock Aunor Mahal recorded at least one conversation between the Nine and the Drifter. The Drifter appeared to be speaking aloud to empty air and remarked upon the Nine showing him visions of a future universe consumed by Darkness, as well as another vision of a universe suffused with Light. The Drifter rebuked the Nine for trying to sway him to their cause, upon which they apparently attempted to kill him by overheating his brain. The Drifter responded by using his Light to counter their attack.

In addition, one can hear different members of the Nine speak directly to the Emissary during several invitations of the Nine.

The Arrival[edit]

During Season of Arrivals, the Prophecy Dungeon was released. Here, Guardians accomplish various tasks given by the Nine in hopes of receiving an audience with them. In this audience, Guardians seek to understand the nature of the Darkness, to the best of the Nine's ability in describing it. The answer to this question is given by the Emissary on behalf of the Nine.

The answer was interpreted by the Drifter as the Nine stating that the difference between the Light and Dark was ultimately meaningless. Along with their answer to the player's question, they also foretold of the use and balance of Darkness in Stasis, the disappearance of Mars, Mercury, Io, and Titan, the Guardian's inevitable clash with Eramis, Kell of Darkness, and at the time unknown Cabal threat.

Identity[edit]

"I cannot explain what the Nine are. They are... very large. I cannot explain. The fault is mine, not yours."

— Xûr, Agent of the Nine

For a very long time, little about the Nine or the Jovian peoples was known due to their enigmatic and secretive nature. In Destiny, a Grimoire Card, Ghost Fragment: Legends 2, presents nine legends that offered contradictory clues and hints as to their nature.^[32] While these legends do not accurately describe the Nine, many of them accurately describe existing concepts or entities connected to the Nine, though the nature of the connection varies. The Emissary claims that both deliberately seeking the Nine out and doing nothing may lead one to encounter them, as they are "everywhere and nowhere". The Cabal call them the Ennead, and characterize them as "trapped and reaching out".^[1]

Former human colonies who made a compact with an alien force to survive became the Nine and/or the Jovians.
Deep-orbiting Warminds (or potentially subminds) who survived the Collapse. Questioned by Orin on her search, who asked her in turn about the location of the "lying robot" who "no longer lies with others."^[18]
Ancient leviathan intelligences originating either from Europa or Titan. The Emissary names "the hydrocarbon pits of distant moons" as one possible place the Nine may be found by worthy Guardians.
The Nine originated from the Corona-Borealis supercluster.^{[note 3]} The Emissary advises worthy Guardians to listen for the Nine in its direction.
The first Awoken, now transcended into mental energy moving along the Jupiter-Io flux tube.^{[note 4]} When the Awoken first self-created in the Distributary, nine of the 900 crew of Yang Liwei were not accounted for.
Nine Ghosts who exited the Solar System and studied the heliopause. Apparently made contact with the Nine when they did so,^[25] and so were sought out by Orin, but were unforthcoming with details.^[17]^{[note 5]}
Remnants of the Darkness, broken by the Traveler's sacrifice, still seeking to destroy human civilization. ^{[note 6]}
Possibly stars, as in the final room of the Prophecy dungeon, there appears to be nine glowing stars above the player and The Emissary.
A viral language of pure meaning. A concept familiar to Xûr, who defines "[doing] what you say" as speaking it.^[33]
Imprints of a transcendent entity left behind after its complete destruction.^{[note 7]}

In Destiny 2 there are seventeen Lore entries from which can be gleaned five particular members of the Nine based on the writing style, with a potential sixth and seventh. It should be noted that VI could be I speaking more, and VII a possible typo, and thus not conclusive or definite.

These members are as follows:

I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII
proper punctuation.	lower case	UPPER CASE	UPPER CASE PUNCTUATION.	U P P E R C A S E A L L S P A C E	Proper Punctuation II (potential)	U P P E R C A S E A L L S P A C E W I T H P U N C T U A T I O N (potential)^[24]
most well-spoken and neutral in personality.	Almost whisperlike and cautious.	Pragmatic and straight to the point; emphatic.	Well-spoken but straight to the point; emotive and forceful.	Contrariwise and sarcastic; emphatic and forceful.	Also well-spoken with a neutral personality.	Potentially the same personality and speech patterns as V but uses punctuation.

The Nine also seem to have a connection to the Awoken or Ahamkara, as they were greatly angered by Oryx's incursion into the Dreaming City, and were driven into a frenzy when Riven was taken. In addition, the Techeun Shuro Chi believes that the Ahamkara either originated from or were sent by the Nine.^[34]

Members[edit]

Sun (implied)
Mercury
Venus
Earth
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto (implied)

Agents of the Nine[edit]

Territory[edit]

All known planetary moons in the Solar System^{[citation needed]}
Unknown Space

Trivia[edit]

The Nine is a homage to Bungie's Myth series, where a similar group also known as the Nine lead the forces of Light against the forces of Darkness. Five members are named: Alric, Rabican, Maeldun, Murgen and Cu Roi.
The identity of at least five Nine was put together in a Reddit post by u/jeckal_died, and serves as the basis for some of this article, minus the speculation.^[35]
The Nine are technically a completely natural phenomenon and came to gain consciousness in a causal manner. The implications of this in regard to the nature of the Destiny universe, dark matter, and planets as a whole are unknown, but it now establishes that universal forces themselves are capable of achieving sentience.
If the Sun is not one of the Nine, it is possible that Pluto is. Considering eight of the Nine are planetary bodies, it would be internally consistent for them all to be; Pluto does not meet the official definition of a "planet" according to the modern astronomy community, but it nonetheless is an object of considerable mass.

Notes[edit]

^ An "ennead" is a group or set of nine, from the Greek enneas.
^ The Great Ahamkara Hunt: "Remember the slaughter? it was no slaughter T E N T H O U S A N D D Y I N G W I S H E S" — The Collapse: "the dreamer survived O N L Y T O F A L L" — The Harbingers: "OUR CHILDREN. stolen constructs not ours"
^ The Corona Borealis is a constellation and known as the "Northern Crown". Additionally, it is made up of seven stars, one of Bungie's many references to the number seven.
^ The Jupiter-Io flux tube is a cylindrical section of Jupiter's magnetic field line which passes between Jupiter and Io. If it were able to be seen by the naked eye, it would resemble a tube of electromagnetic force between the two. Electrical current passes along this flux tube forming a circuit between the planet and moon, which ionizes the cloud of volcanic sulfur, oxygen, sodium and chlorine into a ring of plasma which surrounds the planet, boosting its already powerful magnetic field even further. The flux tube itself boosts radio emissions from Jupiter, making them increase considerably when Io's orbit brings it closer to Earth.
^ Heliopause (also known as heliosphere) is the boundary between solar wind and external cosmic rays, effectively the outer boundary of the Solar System. Therefore, the "Deep Black" is outside of the reach of the Sun's influence.
^ This would conflict with their indirect assistance to the Last City and the Guardians, such as Xûr providing rare weapons to them.
^ This is likely a reference to Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

In this allegory, Plato explains that the inhabitants of the cave are prisoners, trapped inside with no knowledge of, nor have any desire to escape to, the outside world. Behind them a fire burns; objects passed through its light cast a shadow on the cave wall. A prisoner one day escapes their shackles and leaves the cave to find the sun, which shines more brightly than a campfire and overwhelms him; armed with this knowledge of the new reality he returns to try and convince his fellow men to escape but they steadfastly refuse.

The objects which pass between the flames and the wall are what Plato calls the "Theory of Forms", or "Ideas". These objects are the true, metaphysical essence of what the prisoners perceive on the wall. Because the prisoners are shackled they lack knowledge of the "reality" of these shapes and presume the "shadows" are what's real when in fact they are not. The true reality, or higher reality, is what Plato called the "Good", and those which have discovered the "Good" must not remain there alone, but return to release their brethren and perceive the Good.

Destiny inverts this by having the Nine be the remnants of the Forms, the shadows "burned into the weft of what is" are the only remains of the Forms. Something, like the Darkness or even the Light, destroyed the transcendent Forms and recreated them into a new metaphysical archetype. To put it more bluntly, the Nine are the ghosts of dead gods, whose bodies were slain and now endure as wisps of what they once were.

List of appearances[edit]

Destiny (First mentioned)
- The Dark Below (Mentioned only)
- House of Wolves (Mentioned only)
- The Taken King (Mentioned only)
- Rise of Iron (Mentioned only)
Destiny 2 (Mentioned only)
- Curse of Osiris (Mentioned only)
- Warmind (Mentioned only)
- Forsaken (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Forge (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Drifter (First appearance)
- Season of Dawn (Mentioned only)
- Season of Arrivals (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Seraph (Mentioned only)
- Lightfall (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Deep (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Witch (Mentioned only)
- Season of the Wish (Mentioned only)
- The Final Shape (Mentioned only)
Mysterious Logbook (Mentioned only)
The Hidden Dossier (Mentioned only)

References[edit]

^ ^a ^b ^c Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Equitis Shade Rig
^ YouTube - Destiny 2: The Third Spire Social Space
^ Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Declaration
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Witch
^ Bungie (2019/03/4), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Nine
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2015/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves, Quotes: Brother Vance
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny: Xûr, Agent of the Nine: Quotes
^ Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, Grimoire: Osiris
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Item Description, I Am Alive
^ Bungie (2015/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves, Grimoire: Mystery: The Fate of Skolas
^ Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, House of Wolves, Grimoire: Prison of Elders
^ Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: Debt
^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Lore: Reextinction
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: The End
^ Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Suppress
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: The Long Walk
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: A Sudden Death
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Judgment
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Bond Relentless
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: A Swift Verdict
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Mark Relentless
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Cloak Judgment
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Relentless
^ ^a ^b Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Adjudicator
^ Bungie (03/06/2019), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore:Dust: The Witch
^ Bungie (03/06/2019), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore:Stolen Intelligence: Ringer
^ Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Compel
^ Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Vacate
^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Audience with the Queen
^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Emissary
^ Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, Grimoire: Ghost Fragment: Legends 2
^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Xûr, Agent of the Nine: Quotes
^ Pilgrimage: Harbinger's Seclude, Shiny Geode
^ reddit - Trials Lore Tabs and the personalities of the Nine.

[13] An "ennead" is a group or set of nine, from the Greek enneas.

[30] The Great Ahamkara Hunt: "Remember the slaughter? it was no slaughter T E N T H O U S A N D D Y I N G W I S H E S" — The Collapse: "the dreamer survived O N L Y T O F A L L" — The Harbingers: "OUR CHILDREN. stolen constructs not ours"

[35] The Corona Borealis is a constellation and known as the "Northern Crown". Additionally, it is made up of seven stars, one of Bungie's many references to the number seven.

[36] The Jupiter-Io flux tube is a cylindrical section of Jupiter's magnetic field line which passes between Jupiter and Io. If it were able to be seen by the naked eye, it would resemble a tube of electromagnetic force between the two. Electrical current passes along this flux tube forming a circuit between the planet and moon, which ionizes the cloud of volcanic sulfur, oxygen, sodium and chlorine into a ring of plasma which surrounds the planet, boosting its already powerful magnetic field even further. The flux tube itself boosts radio emissions from Jupiter, making them increase considerably when Io's orbit brings it closer to Earth.

[37] Heliopause (also known as heliosphere) is the boundary between solar wind and external cosmic rays, effectively the outer boundary of the Solar System. Therefore, the "Deep Black" is outside of the reach of the Sun's influence.

[38] This would conflict with their indirect assistance to the Last City and the Guardians, such as Xûr providing rare weapons to them.

[40] This is likely a reference to Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

In this allegory, Plato explains that the inhabitants of the cave are prisoners, trapped inside with no knowledge of, nor have any desire to escape to, the outside world. Behind them a fire burns; objects passed through its light cast a shadow on the cave wall. A prisoner one day escapes their shackles and leaves the cave to find the sun, which shines more brightly than a campfire and overwhelms him; armed with this knowledge of the new reality he returns to try and convince his fellow men to escape but they steadfastly refuse.

The objects which pass between the flames and the wall are what Plato calls the "Theory of Forms", or "Ideas". These objects are the true, metaphysical essence of what the prisoners perceive on the wall. Because the prisoners are shackled they lack knowledge of the "reality" of these shapes and presume the "shadows" are what's real when in fact they are not. The true reality, or higher reality, is what Plato called the "Good", and those which have discovered the "Good" must not remain there alone, but return to release their brethren and perceive the Good.

Destiny inverts this by having the Nine be the remnants of the Forms, the shadows "burned into the weft of what is" are the only remains of the Forms. Something, like the Darkness or even the Light, destroyed the transcendent Forms and recreated them into a new metaphysical archetype. To put it more bluntly, the Nine are the ghosts of dead gods, whose bodies were slain and now endure as wisps of what they once were.

[Ennead-1] Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Equitis Shade Rig

[2] YouTube - Destiny 2: The Third Spire Social Space

[3] Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Declaration

[TheWitch-4] Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Witch

[TheNine-5] Bungie (2019/03/4), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: The Nine

[Vance-6] Bungie (2015/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves, Quotes: Brother Vance

[Xur-7] Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny: Xûr, Agent of the Nine: Quotes

[8] Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, Grimoire: Osiris

[9] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2

[10] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Item Description, I Am Alive

[11] Bungie (2015/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves, Grimoire: Mystery: The Fate of Skolas

[12] Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, House of Wolves, Grimoire: Prison of Elders

[14] Bungie (2019/3/5), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore: Debt

[15] Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Lore: Reextinction

[16] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: The End

[Suppress-17] Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Suppress

[Long_Walk-18] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: The Long Walk

[Sudden_Death-19] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: A Sudden Death

[20] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Judgment

[21] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Bond Relentless

[22] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: A Swift Verdict

[23] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Mark Relentless

[24] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Cloak Judgment

[Relentless-25] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Relentless

[Adjudicator-26] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Adjudicator

[27] Bungie (03/06/2019), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore:Dust: The Witch

[28] Bungie (03/06/2019), Destiny 2: Season of the Drifter, Lore:Stolen Intelligence: Ringer

[29] Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Compel

[31] Bungie (2018/8/5), Destiny 2: Warmind, Motion to Vacate

[AwtQ-32] Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Audience with the Queen

[33] Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Emissary

[Legends_2-34] Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny, Grimoire: Ghost Fragment: Legends 2

[39] Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Xûr, Agent of the Nine: Quotes

[41] Pilgrimage: Harbinger's Seclude, Shiny Geode

[42] reddit - Trials Lore Tabs and the personalities of the Nine.

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-{{Quote|More of your brother's [[Crow (title)|Crows]] have entered the Cauldrons of [[Rhea]]. The Nine do not approve.|[[Techeun]]<ref name="TheQueen">'''Bungie (2014-9-9)''', ''[[Destiny]], [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies#Ghost_Fragment:_The_Queen|Ghost Fragment: The Queen]]''</ref>}}
+{{Quote|A COURT<br>A V A U L T<br>A Maelstrom.<br>a cauldron.<br>Of what?<br>OF STARS<br>O F N I N E|The Nine}}
-The '''Nine''' (often represented as the '''IX'''; also known as the '''ennead''') are the enigmatic rulers of the "Jovians", the worlds and [[Jovian|people]] beyond the Solar System's asteroid belt.<ref name="Activision">'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2014/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard''</ref> They reside deep within an alternate dimension in spacetime, the [[Unknown Space]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfmh3HDlGNg '''YouTube''' - ''Destiny 2: The Third Spire Social Space'']</ref>
+'''The Nine''' (often represented as the '''IX'''), also known as the '''ennead''', are a group of enigmatic entities affiliated with the planets of the [[Sol System]]. They control [[Unknown Space]], a mysterious realm whose nature is poorly understood.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfmh3HDlGNg '''YouTube''' - ''Destiny 2: The Third Spire Social Space'']</ref>
+==Overview==
+{{Quote|You want our source, our primal cause? <br>WE ARE THE SHADOWS OF YOUR WORLDS' MASS.|The Nine<ref>'''Bungie (2019/3/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore]]: [[Lore:Dust#The Declaration|The Declaration]]''</ref>}}
+The Nine are sentient beings composed of dark matter, which developed cognition after being pulled into loops by the gravity of Sol and its planets. Their existence is predicated on the existence of those planets, particularly the life that developed on them, as the motions of lifeforms cause gravitational perturbations that drive the Nine's ability to think. The Nine's primary concern is sustaining their own existence, whether by protecting the life on which they depend or by finding a way to end their reliance on it.
+Despite their virtual omnipresence within the Sol System and the universe with their influence of Dark Matter, the scope of their power over the world of "normal" matter is limited, and so they primarily act through a handful of agents, emissaries, and associates. They appear to be capable of freely manipulating the dark matter that composes themselves.<ref name="TheWitch">'''Bungie (2019/3/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore]]: [[Lore:Dust#The Witch|The Witch]]''</ref> They are also able to manipulate and even synthesize regular matter under certain circumstances, such as through the portals of [[Cocytus]].
+At present, the Nine are divided into two factions. One faction, consisting of five members, seeks to study the [[Light]] and use it for their own purposes, and is responsible for sending [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]] and [[Orin|The Emissary]] to interact with the [[Guardian]]s. The other four seek to free themselves from their dependence on matter-based life and the Light, and to that end have experimented with creating their own realms through spacetime engineering and the creation of dark matter-based black holes, which would serve as gravitational foci independent from those provided by the realm of normal matter.
+The Nine appear to have some ability to predict or see the future; the [[Prophecy]] [[Dungeon]] includes symbolic representations of future events such as the rise of [[Eramis, Kell of Darkness|Eramis]], the disappearance of [[Io]], [[Mars]], [[Mercury]] and [[Titan (moon)|Titan]] following the arrival of the [[Black Fleet]] and later arrival of [[Empress Caiatl]] in the Sol System.
 ==History==
-{{Quote|[[Osiris|He]] says the Nine are vulnerable every moment they touch our world.|Brother Vance<ref name="Vance">'''Bungie (2015/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Quotes: [[Brother Vance]]''</ref>}}
+===Origins===
-Little of the Nine is known outside of legends and the cryptic sayings of [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]].<ref name="Xur">'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: Console, Activision Blizzard, [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]]: [[Xûr#Quotes|Quotes]]''</ref> [[Osiris]] is said to have met with the Nine on [[Europa]],<ref name="Vance"/> and before his exile had an obsessive interest in them to the exclusion of his duties as the [[Warlock]] [[Vanguard]].<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies/Osiris#Osiris| Osiris]]''</ref> Nonetheless the Nine appear to have a vested interest in helping the City, tasking Xûr to sell powerful weapons to Guardians.<ref name="Xur"/> Following the [[Red War]], the Nine have taken an active interest in [[Guardians]], and have began to host the [[Trials of the Nine]] through their proxy, [[The Emissary]].<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard''</ref> [[Emperor Calus]] is dismissive of their efforts.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Item Description, [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/i-am-alive I Am Alive]''</ref>
+As revealed by the Nine to [[Lavinia Garcia Umr Tawil]], the Nine originated from streams of dark matter particles passing through the galaxy and the solar system. As dark matter only interacts with normal matter through gravity, these streams were drawn to the cores of the Sun and its orbiting planets. The infalling dark matter was then flung back into space, before being pulled in again to form endless loops. These loops formed the basis of emergent consciousnesses that would become the Nine.
-The Nine have an alliance of sorts with [[The Reef]]<ref name="TheQueen"/> but their loyalty is in doubt following the release of [[Skolas, Kell of Kells]]<ref>'''Bungie (2015/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies#Mystery: The Fate of Skolas|Mystery: The Fate of Skolas]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]], [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/House_of_Wolves#Prison_of_Elders|Prison of Elders]]''</ref> despite rumours to the contrary.<ref>'''Bungie (2014/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[The Silent Fang]]''</ref> The Cabal know of them as the Ennead.<ref group=note>An "ennead" is a group or set of nine, from the Greek ''enneas''.</ref><ref name="Ennead"/>
+The Nine did not truly "awaken" until life evolved within the solar system. The movements of lifeforms resulted in perturbations to the loops of dark matter particles cycling through each celestial body, creating waves that formed the basis of complex thoughts. According to Lavinia, the dark matter of the Nine passes through every living thing and every iota of matter in the solar system.<ref name="TheNine">'''Bungie (2019/03/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore]]: [[Lore:Dust#The Nine|The Nine]]''</ref>
-Sometime during or before the Red War<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[The End]]''</ref> an individual [[Guardian]] named [[Orin]] (and potentially an agent of [[Mara Sov]]<ref name="Suppress">'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Motion to Suppress]]''</ref>) sought out nine [[Ghosts]] who had gone beyond the Solar System and inquired after their findings. Receiving only a set of coordinates she left them.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[The Long Walk]]''</ref> She also found several "deep-orbit minds" in the midst of her search.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[A Sudden Death]]''</ref> Orin soon encountered some of the Nine herself.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Judgment]]''</ref> After warning her of the possibility of going mad from the conversation<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Bond Relentless]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[A Swift Verdict]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Mark Relentless]]''</ref> and of a potential price as consequence,<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Cloak Judgment]]''</ref> they tasked her with finding three "worthy keys".<ref name="Relentless">'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Relentless]]''</ref> They then commended her for seeking them out, for her resourcefulness in acquiring a ship and her decision to avoid "''a golden snake who poses as a god''".<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Adjudicator]]''</ref>
+The Nine were cognizant of their dependence on all life and the worlds of the Sol System: if that life ended, so too would the Nine as thinking entities. They began searching for a way to end that dependence and sustain their existence independent of it. Two factions emerged after the arrival of the [[Traveler]] to Sol: one faction sought to harness the paracausal properties of [[Light]] to construct living bodies for themselves out of regular matter, the other seeking to create a pocket universe with physical laws that could accommodate them.<ref name="TheWitch"/>
-Whether before or after Orin/the Awoken agent visits them, the Nine speak of two significant events. The first event is with expectation and appears to be Mara Sov's plan with her Techeuns. They are confident that her fall is inevitable for the odds she plays with have been weighted by them.<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Motion to Compel]]''</ref> The second event is harder to construct and is tinged with overtones of regret and sadness; the Nine could be referring to anything from the [[Great Ahamkara Hunt]], to [[The Collapse]], or the [[Harbingers]].<ref group=note>The Great Ahamkara Hunt: "''Remember the slaughter? it was no slaughter T E N T H O U S A N D D Y I N G W I S H E S''" — The Collapse: "''the dreamer survived O N L Y T O F A L L''" — The Harbingers: "''OUR CHILDREN. stolen constructs not ours''"</ref> Regardless of the specifics, one member urges the rest to "''rid'' [themselves] ''of regret''".<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Motion to Vacate]]''</ref>
+===City Age===
+{{Quote|[[Osiris|He]] says the Nine are vulnerable every moment they touch our world.|Brother Vance<ref name="Vance">'''Bungie (2015/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]], Quotes: [[Brother Vance]]''</ref>}}
+For most of the City Age, little of the Nine was known outside of the cryptic sayings of [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]].<ref name="Xur">'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]]: [[Xûr#Quotes|Quotes]]''</ref> [[Osiris]] is said to have met with the Nine on [[Europa]],<ref name="Vance"/> and before his exile had an obsessive interest in them to the exclusion of his duties as the [[Warlock]] [[Vanguard]].<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies/Osiris#Osiris|Osiris]]''</ref> Nonetheless the Nine had a vested interest in helping the City, tasking Xûr to sell powerful weapons to Guardians.<ref name="Xur"/> Following the [[Red War]], the Nine have taken an active interest in [[Guardian]]s, and hosted the [[Trials of the Nine]] through their proxy, [[The Emissary]].<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]''</ref> [[Emperor Calus]] is dismissive of their efforts.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Item Description, [[I Am Alive]]''</ref>
+The Nine have an alliance of sorts with the [[Reef]], but their loyalty is in doubt following the release of [[Skolas, Kell of Kells]] at their command.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/5/19)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]], [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies#Mystery: The Fate of Skolas|Mystery: The Fate of Skolas]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]], [[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]]'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/House of Wolves#Prison of Elders|Prison of Elders]]''</ref> The Cabal know of them as the Ennead.<ref group=note>An "ennead" is a group or set of nine, from the Greek ''enneas''.</ref><ref name="Ennead"/>
+===Reef Wars===
+During the [[Reef Wars]], the [[Queen's Wrath]] [[Sjur Eido]] was killed by an unknown party, and her [[Wish-Ender|bow]] stolen. A [[strange coin]] was left on her body as "weregild", suggesting that the Nine were in some way involved with her death.<ref>'''Bungie (2019/3/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore]]: [[Lore:Ecdysis#Debt|Debt]]''</ref>
+===Arrival of the Taken King===
+Shortly after the battle of Saturn, when [[Oryx]] invaded the [[Dreaming City]], the Nine debated about what to do regarding Oryx's incursion, for he threatened all life. Some members seemed to blame [[Mara Sov]] for worsening the situation, claiming that her actions had "ruined everything." Oryx soon took [[Riven]], after which the Nine were driven into a frenzy. During this time they would debate whether or not to destroy the Ahamkara, and if they did '''"Done cannot be undone! Everything is lost!"''' Although their wording is ambiguous, the '''[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/reextinction Reextinction lore]''' entry suggests communications between the Nine during this time indicate that they knew of surviving [[Ahamkara]] other than Riven and that they killed them in order to prevent them from falling into Oryx's grasp.<ref>'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], [[Lore]]: [[Lore:The Dreaming City#Reextinction|Reextinction]]''</ref>
+===The Red War===
+Sometime during or before the Red War<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[The End]]''</ref> an Awoken named [[Orin]] (and potentially an agent of [[Mara Sov]]<ref name="Suppress">'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]], [[Motion to Suppress]]''</ref>) sought out nine [[Ghosts]] who had gone beyond the Solar System and inquired after their findings. Receiving only a set of coordinates she left them.<ref name="Long Walk">'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[The Long Walk]]''</ref> She also found several "deep-orbit minds" in the midst of her search.<ref name="Sudden Death">'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[A Sudden Death]]''</ref> Orin soon encountered some of the Nine herself.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Judgment]]''</ref> After warning her of the possibility of going mad from the conversation<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Bond Relentless]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[A Swift Verdict]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Mark Relentless]]''</ref> and of a potential price as consequence,<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Flowing Armor#Cloak Judgment|Cloak Judgment]]''</ref> they tasked her with finding three "worthy keys".<ref name="Relentless">'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Relentless]]''</ref> They then commended her for seeking them out, for her resourcefulness in acquiring a ship and her decision to avoid "''a golden snake who poses as a god''".<ref name="Adjudicator">'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Adjudicator]]''</ref>
+One of the Nine was responsible for blinding the Guardians to the arrival of the Red Legion, allowing Ghaul to successfully attack and occupy the City. This member of the Nine did so with the goal of learning how to take the Light, but that particular member of the Nine was severely punished, as Ghaul's success led to the deployment of [[the Almighty]], which would have destroyed the Sol system along with the Nine had it not been disabled.<ref>'''Bungie (03/06/2019)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore:Dust]]: [[Lore:Dust#The Witch|The Witch]]''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (03/06/2019)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Drifter]], [[Lore:Stolen Intelligence]]: [[Lore:Stolen Intelligence#Ringer|Ringer]]''</ref>
+Whether before or after Orin/the Awoken agent visits them, the Nine speak of two significant events. The first event is with expectation and appears to be Mara Sov's plan with her Techeuns. They are confident that her fall is inevitable for the odds she plays with have been weighted by them.<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]], [[Motion to Compel]]''</ref> The second event is tinged with overtones of regret and sadness; the Nine lament their slaughter of the remaining Ahamkara after Riven was taken by Oryx.<ref group=note>The Great Ahamkara Hunt: "''Remember the slaughter? it was no slaughter T E N T H O U S A N D D Y I N G W I S H E S''" — The Collapse: "''the dreamer survived O N L Y T O F A L L''" — The Harbingers: "''OUR CHILDREN. stolen constructs not ours''"</ref> Regardless of the specifics, one member urges the rest to "''rid'' [themselves] ''of regret''".<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/5)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]], [[Motion to Vacate]]''</ref>
+===Forsaken===
+During the Guardian's third visit to [[Mara Sov]]'s throne, the Queen was seen talking to [[The Emissary]], saying that she agreed with the Nine's terms regarding an "asset" to be stationed "beyond the grave of the [[First Fleet]]". She then told the Emissary to remind the Nine that she had shown enough patience regarding the matter. The Emissary leaves and Sov warns the Guardian not to get involved in the Nine's schemes, claiming that they never end.<ref name="AwtQ">'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], [[Audience with the Queen]]''</ref>
+At an unknown time after the curse was unleashed upon the [[Dreaming City]], the Nine argued with [[The Emissary]] regarding her status as a pawn of the Nine, Mara Sov's plan, and an [[Black Fleet|oncoming storm]]. During the conversation, the Emissary pointed out the fact that seemingly only five of the Nine were present, which the Nine admitted was true. <ref>'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], [[Emissary]]''</ref>
+===Season of the Drifter===
+During her surveillance of the [[Drifter]], the [[Praxic Order|Praxic]] [[Warlock]] [[Aunor Mahal]] recorded at least one conversation between the Nine and the Drifter. The Drifter appeared to be speaking aloud to empty air and remarked upon the Nine showing him visions of a future universe consumed by Darkness, as well as another vision of a universe suffused with Light. The Drifter rebuked the Nine for trying to sway him to their cause, upon which they apparently attempted to kill him by overheating his brain. The Drifter responded by using his Light to counter their attack.
+In addition, one can hear different members of the Nine speak directly to the Emissary during several invitations of the Nine.
+===The Arrival===
+During [[Season of Arrivals]], the [[Prophecy]] [[Dungeon]] was released. Here, Guardians accomplish various tasks given by the Nine in hopes of receiving an audience with them. In this audience, Guardians seek to understand the nature of the [[Darkness]], to the best of the Nine's ability in describing it. The answer to this question is given by [[Orin|the Emissary]] on behalf of the Nine.
+The answer was interpreted by the [[Drifter]] as the Nine stating that the difference between the [[Light]] and Dark was ultimately meaningless. Along with their answer to the player's question, they also foretold of the use and balance of Darkness in [[Stasis]], the disappearance of [[Mars]], [[Mercury]], [[Io]], and [[Titan (moon)|Titan]], [[The Guardian|the Guardian's]] inevitable clash with [[Eramis, Kell of Darkness]], and at the time [[Emperor Calus|unknown Cabal threat]].
 ==Identity==
 {{quote|I cannot explain what the Nine are. They are... very large. I cannot explain. The fault is mine, not yours.|Xûr, Agent of the Nine}}
-Very little about the Nine or the Jovian peoples is known due to the isolation of the outer Solar System. In ''Destiny'', nine legends offer contradictory clues and hints as to their nature, but none have been proven.<ref name="Legends 2">'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies/Legends_%26_Mysteries#Ghost_Fragment:_Legends_2| Ghost Fragment: Legends 2]]''</ref> At least some of the entities described by the legends actually exist, but while they seem to be linked to the Nine, they are apparently not the Nine themselves. The Cabal call them the Ennead, and characterize them as ''"trapped and reaching out"''.<ref name="Ennead"/>
+For a very long time, little about the Nine or the Jovian peoples was known due to their enigmatic and secretive nature. In ''Destiny'', a [[Grimoire]] Card, Ghost Fragment: Legends 2, presents nine legends that offered contradictory clues and hints as to their nature.<ref name="Legends 2">'''Bungie (2014/9/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]'', ''[[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Allies/Legends: Mysteries#Ghost Fragment: Legends 2| Ghost Fragment: Legends 2]]''</ref> While these legends do not accurately describe the Nine, many of them accurately describe existing concepts or entities ''connected'' to the Nine, though the nature of the connection varies. The Emissary claims that both deliberately seeking the Nine out and doing nothing may lead one to encounter them, as they are ''"everywhere and nowhere"''. The Cabal call them the Ennead, and characterize them as ''"trapped and reaching out"''.<ref name="Ennead"/>
 *Former human colonies who made a compact with an alien force to survive became the Nine and/or the Jovians.
-*Deep-orbiting [[Warmind]]s who survived the [[Collapse]].
+*Deep-orbiting [[Warmind]]s (or potentially subminds) who survived the [[Collapse]]. Questioned by Orin on her search, who asked her in turn about the location of the ''"lying robot"'' who ''"no longer lies with others."''<ref name="Sudden Death" />
-*Ancient leviathan intelligences originating either from Europa or [[Titan (moon)|Titan]].
+*Ancient leviathan intelligences originating either from Europa or [[Titan (moon)|Titan]]. The Emissary names ''"the hydrocarbon pits of distant moons"'' as one possible place the Nine may be found by worthy Guardians.
-*The Nine originated from the [[wikipedia:Corona_Borealis|Corona-Borealis]] supercluster.<ref group=note>The ''Corona Borealis'' is a constellation and known as the "Northern Crown". Additionally, it is made up of seven stars, one of Bungie's many [[halopedia:Seven|references to the number seven]].</ref>
+*The Nine originated from the [[wikipedia:Corona_Borealis|Corona-Borealis]] supercluster.<ref group=note>The ''Corona Borealis'' is a constellation and known as the "Northern Crown". Additionally, it is made up of seven stars, one of Bungie's many [[halopedia:Seven|references to the number seven]].</ref> The Emissary advises worthy Guardians to listen for the Nine in its direction.
-*The first [[Awoken]], now transcended into mental energy moving along the [[Jupiter]]-[[Io (moon)|Io]] [[wikipedia:flux_tube|flux tube]].<ref group=note>The Jupiter-Io flux tube is a cylindrical section of Jupiter's magnetic field line which passes between Jupiter and Io. If it were able to be seen by the naked eye, it would resemble a tube of electromagnetic force between the two. Electrical current passes along this flux tube forming a circuit between the planet and moon, which ionizes the cloud of volcanic sulfur, oxygen, sodium and chlorine into a ring of plasma which surrounds the planet, boosting its already powerful magnetic field even further. The flux tube itself boosts radio emissions from Jupiter, making them increase considerably when Io's orbit brings it closer to Earth.</ref>
+*The first [[Awoken]], now transcended into mental energy moving along the [[Jupiter]]-[[Io]] [[wikipedia:flux_tube|flux tube]].<ref group=note>The Jupiter-Io flux tube is a cylindrical section of Jupiter's magnetic field line which passes between Jupiter and Io. If it were able to be seen by the naked eye, it would resemble a tube of electromagnetic force between the two. Electrical current passes along this flux tube forming a circuit between the planet and moon, which ionizes the cloud of volcanic sulfur, oxygen, sodium and chlorine into a ring of plasma which surrounds the planet, boosting its already powerful magnetic field even further. The flux tube itself boosts radio emissions from Jupiter, making them increase considerably when Io's orbit brings it closer to Earth.</ref> When the Awoken first self-created in the [[Distributary]], nine of the 900 crew of [[Yang Liwei]] were not accounted for.
-*[[Ghost]]s who exited the [[Solar System]] and studied the [[wikipedia:Heliosphere#Heliopause|heliopause]].<ref group=note>Heliopause (also known as heliosphere) is the boundary between solar wind and external cosmic rays, effectively the outer boundary of the Solar System. Therefore, the "Deep Black" is outside of the reach of the Sun's influence.</ref>
+*Nine [[Ghost]]s who exited the [[Solar System]] and studied the [[wikipedia:Heliosphere#Heliopause|heliopause]]. Apparently made contact with the Nine when they did so,<ref name="Adjudicator"/> and so were sought out by Orin, but were unforthcoming with details.<ref name="Long Walk"/><ref group=note>Heliopause (also known as heliosphere) is the boundary between solar wind and external cosmic rays, effectively the outer boundary of the Solar System. Therefore, the "Deep Black" is outside of the reach of the Sun's influence.</ref>
-*Remnants of the [[Darkness]], broken by the [[Traveler]]'s sacrifice, still seeking to destroy human civilization.
+*Remnants of the [[Darkness]], broken by the [[Traveler]]'s sacrifice, still seeking to destroy human civilization. <ref group=note>This would conflict with their indirect assistance to the Last City and the Guardians, such as Xûr providing rare weapons to them.</ref>
-*A viral language of pure meaning.
+*Possibly stars, as in the final room of the [[Prophecy]] dungeon, there appears to be nine glowing stars above the player and [[The Emissary]].
+*A viral language of pure meaning. A concept familiar to Xûr, who defines ''"[doing] what you say"'' as speaking it.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]]: [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine#Destiny 2|Quotes]]''</ref>
 *Imprints of a transcendent entity left behind after its complete destruction.<ref group=note>This is likely a reference to [[wikipedia:Plato|Plato]]'s [[wikipedia:Allegory_of_the_Cave|Allegory of the Cave]].<br/>
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-| Most well-spoken and neutral in personality. || Almost whisperlike and cautious. || Pragmatic and straight to the point; emphatic. || Well-spoken but straight to the point; emotive and forceful. || Contrariwise and sarcastic; emphatic and forceful. || Also well-spoken with a neutral neutral personality. || Potentially the same personality and speech patterns as V but uses punctuation.
+| most well-spoken and neutral in personality. || Almost whisperlike and cautious. || Pragmatic and straight to the point; emphatic. || Well-spoken but straight to the point; emotive and forceful. || Contrariwise and sarcastic; emphatic and forceful. || Also well-spoken with a neutral personality. || Potentially the same personality and speech patterns as V but uses punctuation.
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+The Nine also seem to have a connection to the [[Awoken]] or [[Ahamkara]], as they were greatly angered by [[Oryx|Oryx's]] incursion into the [[Dreaming City]], and were driven into a frenzy when [[Riven]] was [[Taken|taken]]. In addition, the Techeun [[Shuro Chi]] believes that the Ahamkara either originated from or were sent by the Nine.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/pilgrimage-harbingers-seclude-shiny-geode?highlight=pilgrimage Pilgrimage: Harbinger's Seclude, Shiny Geode]</ref>
+==Members==
+*Sun (implied)
+*[[Mercury]]
+*[[Venus]]
+*[[Earth]]
+*[[Mars]]
+*[[Jupiter]]
+*[[Saturn]]
+*[[Uranus]]
+*[[Neptune]]
+*[[Pluto]] (implied)
 ===Agents of the Nine===
 *[[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]]
 *[[The Emissary]]
+*[[Starhorse]]
 ===Territory===
-*[[Jupiter]]
+*All known planetary moons in the [[Solar System]]{{Citation needed}}
-**[[Europa]]
-*[[Saturn]]
-**[[Rhea]]
-**[[Titan (moon)|Titan]]
 *[[Unknown Space]]
 ==Trivia==
-*The name, "The Nine" or "IX", is likely a reference to the "[[wikipedia:Ix (Dune)|Ix]]" in Frank Herbert's ''Dune'' series, a fictional planet whose position from its sun inspired the name, ruled by the Ixian Technocracy. Ix was the primary provider of technology for the Old Imperium (or Galactic Padishah Empire) after the infamous Butlerian Jihad, which banned AI; ironically, Leto Atreides II used many of their creations later in his reign, a situation unthinkable in his early years.
+*The Nine is a homage to Bungie's ''[[wikipedia:Myth_(series)|Myth]]'' series, where a similar group also known as the Nine lead the forces of Light against the forces of Darkness. Five members are named: Alric, Rabican, Maeldun, Murgen and Cu Roi.
-:Additionally it could also reference the {{Plain|[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/n/ninerings.html Nine Rings of Power]}} in J.R.R. Tolkien's ''The Lord of the Rings'' trilogy, given by Sauron (in disguise as Annatar) to corrupt nine powerful kings of men to his service, of which three were Númenórean, the last noble survivors from the island kingdom of Númenor that Sauron had destroyed. "''Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die...''"
+*The identity of at least five Nine was put together in a Reddit post by u/jeckal_died, and serves as the basis for some of this article, minus the speculation.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8idjao/trials_lore_tabs_and_the_personalities_of_the_nine/ '''reddit''' - ''Trials Lore Tabs and the personalities of the Nine.'']</ref>
-*Some of Xûr's dialogue partly explains the in-universe legends behind the Nine, as he mentions that what Guardians do ''"is to speak in a language of pure meaning"''.<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Xûr, Agent of the Nine]]: [[X%C3%BBr,_Agent_of_the_Nine#Destiny_2|Quotes]]''</ref>
+*The Nine are technically a completely natural phenomenon and came to gain consciousness in a causal manner. The implications of this in regard to the nature of the Destiny universe, dark matter, and planets as a whole are unknown, but it now establishes that universal forces themselves are capable of achieving sentience.
-*The identity of at least five Nine was put together in a reddit post by u/jeckal_died, and serves as the basis for some of this article, minus the speculation.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8idjao/trials_lore_tabs_and_the_personalities_of_the_nine/ '''reddit''' - ''Trials Lore Tabs and the personalities of the Nine.'']</ref>
+*If the Sun is not one of the Nine, it is possible that [[Pluto]] is. Considering eight of the Nine are planetary bodies, it would be internally consistent for them all to be; Pluto does not meet the official definition of a "planet" according to the modern astronomy community, but it nonetheless is an object of considerable mass.
 ==Notes==
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 ==List of appearances==
-*''[[Destiny]]'' {{First mentioned}}
+*''[[Destiny]]'' {{Fm}}
-**''[[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]]'' {{mo}}
+**''[[The Dark Below]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[House of Wolves (expansion)|House of Wolves]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[The Taken King]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Rise of Iron]]'' {{Mo}}
 *''[[Destiny 2]]'' {{Mo}}
-**''[[Curse of Osiris]]'' {{C|mentioned}}
+**''[[Curse of Osiris]]'' {{Mo}}
-**''[[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]]'' {{C|mentioned}}
+**''[[Warmind (expansion)|Warmind]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Forsaken]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Forge]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Drifter]]'' {{1st}}
+**''[[Season of Dawn]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of Arrivals]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Seraph]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Lightfall]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Deep]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Witch]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[Season of the Wish]]'' {{Mo}}
+**''[[The Final Shape]]'' {{Mo}}
+*''[[Mysterious Logbook]]'' {{Mo}}
+*''[[The Hidden Dossier]]'' {{Mo}}
 ==References==
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+<references/>
 [[Category:Organizations]]