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| ==Construction==
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| ===Delay?===
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| So when are any of you guys gonna fill in these sections? -- [[User:Titan66|Titan66]] ([[User talk:Titan66|talk]]) 23:08, 27 February 2017 (EDT) | | So when are any of you guys gonna fill in these sections? -- [[User:Titan66|Titan66]] ([[User talk:Titan66|talk]]) 23:08, 27 February 2017 (EDT) |
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| :It takes time. Currently it's me and [[User:RedRenegade|RedRenegade]] who're doing the bulk of the work. I initially started but the sheer number of cards to summarize accurately without copying everything was tiring and exhausting. We're making progress, slowly but surely. Just don't copy the Books of Sorrow into it; the goal's the make a summary, not another Books of Sorrow. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 23:13, 27 February 2017 (EST)
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| ::Okay got it ;) -- [[User:Titan66|Titan66]] ([[User talk:Titan66|talk]]) 23:16, 27 February 2017 (EDT)
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| :::Anytime. I'm honestly excited about doing this (when I find the motivation, that is). It's like doing fanfiction, only even better, which is wiki-work. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)
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| ===Completion===
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| At this point the article is complete, with minor edits to be made. I'll eventually go through and add a list of characters and organizations at the very end to tie everything together, but at this point it is effectively finished.
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| I thank [[User:Arcmind]], [[User:Frostywookiee]], [[User:Observance]], [[User:Titan66]], [[User:RedRenegade]], [[User:Blucorsa]], and [[User:IronMachina20]] for their contributions during the article's reconstruction, and all of their help, since it was a monolithic task for one user alone. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 00:23, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
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| ==New Section Discussion==
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| It has been almost seven years since the reconstruction and expansion of this article into the behemoth that it is now.
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| Since then, new lore has come out and expanded our understanding the Hive pantheon and sociology. This includes the fabled seventh Book of Sorrow contained in two separate [[Lore]] books, [[Lore:The Book of Unmaking]] and [[Lore:For Every Rose, a Thorn]], and the eighth Book of Sorrow as recorded in [[Lore:Sororicide]]. We don't know when the former was composed or even what's in it beyond what the Shadows of Yor have gleaned, and it is with a certainty that I can say the eighth Book of Sorrow was a work in progress until Eris Morn joined Hive goddesshood.
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| That leaves us with the whereabouts of the so-called "sixth Book of Sorrow", and so far all available circumstantial evidence—being the Exotic items [[Wormhusk Crown]], [[Wormgod Caress]], and [[Verity's Brow]]—points to it being an incomplete creation of [[Nokris]]' and [[Xol, Will of the Thousands]], seemingly recognized by the wider Hive pantheon despite their excommunication. All well and good.
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| My proposal is to add new sections to the main article for Books seven and eight, to give our explanations as best as we can so others can read and judge for themselves. The casual user will not spend hours upon hours researching arcana to make sense of Destiny's lore, not with how limited their time is, so this is the least we can do; that was my philosophy when I first set out, with all the time in the world, to recreate the [[Books of Sorrow]] page into what it is now. I think we can do it a second time.
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| Your thoughts and opinions, O Editors mine? --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 22:11, September 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Nokris already stated specifically his words were not of the Books of Sorrow from what appears to be a self-narrated foreword from a [[Weblore:Warmind#Apocrypha|Weblore]] entry. [[User:Didactic Mind|Kuato, Didactic Mind]] 00:10, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::Didactic, you’re basically pulling info from an entry that doesn’t stand for everything Nokris related. However Dante, I do second the idea to restructure it based on the 7th and 8th books, however I would leave the 6th as unknown for now. {{User:TheTrueSorrowMaker/Sig}} 00:47, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| :I agree with Sorrow, maybe leave the sixth out of it for now. [[File:WizardWolf Icon.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:WizardWolf|<span style="color: #a8329e">'''''WizardWolf'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:WizardWolf|<span style="color: #a8329e">''Talk''</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/WizardWolf|<span style="color: #a8329e">''Contribs''</span>]]</sup> 09:46, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::All right, duly noted. The 7th and 8th Books of Sorrow shall be added from henceforth to the main article, while the 6th will be made a note of, with the three Exotic items mentioned for completeness sake. it'll be a while before I get started; I have a particular way of formatting, but expect it no later than Saturday of this week. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 22:00, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| This brings up another topic: what of the [[Lucent Brood]] [[Ghost]]s that defected from the Vanguard because they read the Books and became Hive sympathizers? [[User:Didactic Mind|Kuato, Didactic Mind]] 22:39, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| :That’s irrelevant to the discussion at hand. This is an OOC article for the erudition of players like you and me, not written as an in-universe article. The Lucent Brood Ghosts don’t factor into this at all. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 22:50, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::How about the three verses Savathûn written for the [[Lore:Truth to Power]] manuscripts? (Ikora identified as a manifesto for understanding the Witch Queen). [[User:Didactic Mind|Kuato, Didactic Mind]] 23:07, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::We’re not going to add those due to how dubious the entirety of Truth to Power is. {{User:TheTrueSorrowMaker/Sig}} 23:44, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::I second Sorrow's statement. At best, they're a red herring; at worst, nonsense even in the context of Hive scripture. --{{User:Dante the Ghost/Sig}} 16:05, September 4, 2024 (EDT)
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