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According to [[Rasputin]], the Veil is connected to the [[the Traveler|Traveler]], and upon entering close proximity to the Veil, [[Ghost]] mentions that it gives him a feeling which reminds him of the Traveler. However, it is elsewhere described as an "artifact of [[Darkness]]"<ref>https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/roving?highlight=artifact+of+darkness</ref>, and its presence in Neomuna suffuses the city with [[Strand]] energy - Strand being an elemental manifestation of the Darkness. Furthermore, the [[Radial Mast]] is stated by Ghost to resonate with [[Light]], and Ghost himself is later used by the [[the Witness|Witness]] to interface with the Veil. Collectively, these facts indicate that the Veil is  closely tied to the Darkness, but that it may also have some relationship to the Light and the Traveler.
According to [[Rasputin]], the Veil is connected to the [[the Traveler|Traveler]], and upon entering close proximity to the Veil, [[Ghost]] mentions that it gives him a feeling which reminds him of the Traveler. However, it is elsewhere described as an "artifact of [[Darkness]]"<ref>https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/roving?highlight=artifact+of+darkness</ref>, and its presence in Neomuna suffuses the city with [[Strand]] energy - Strand being an elemental manifestation of the Darkness. Furthermore, the [[Radial Mast]] is stated by Ghost to resonate with [[Light]], and Ghost himself is later used by the [[the Witness|Witness]] to interface with the Veil. Collectively, these facts indicate that the Veil is  closely tied to the Darkness, but that it may also have some relationship to the Light and the Traveler.


According to audio logs left by Chioma Esi, the Veil appears to be a "web of consciousness" similar to the Vex network, but biological in nature rather than artificial.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293gPhv_dks&list=PLS2hBTtCDufQ-h9RA3e-GZElbqNS9GyBP&index=11</ref> She also noted that the Veil registers as an "electromagnetic anomaly," possessing no mass while having a tangible physical surface; she once described it as "like a thesis statement to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation Von Neumann-Wigner Hypothesis],"<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxf0LFYtNk</ref> seemingly suggesting that its nature points to an interaction between consciousness and quantum mechanics.
According to audio logs left by [[Chioma Esi]], the Veil appears to be a "web of consciousness" similar to the [[Vex network]], but biological in nature rather than artificial.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293gPhv_dks&list=PLS2hBTtCDufQ-h9RA3e-GZElbqNS9GyBP&index=11</ref> She also noted that the Veil registers as an "electromagnetic anomaly," possessing no mass while having a tangible physical surface; she once described it as "like a thesis statement to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation Von Neumann-Wigner Hypothesis],"<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxf0LFYtNk</ref> seemingly suggesting that its nature points to an interaction between consciousness and quantum mechanics.


==History==
==History==
===The Ancient Past===
===The Ancient Past===
The origins and true nature of the Veil are unknown, but it is known to have existed for billions of years, potentially at least as long as the Traveler. In one of her messages to the Guardian through Sloane, Ahsa makes reference to "''two halves of a whole, long divided''," which in context seems to suggest that the Traveler and Veil were once part of a single entity, or at least share a common origin.
The origins and true nature of the Veil are unknown, but it is known to have existed for billions of years, potentially at least as long as the Traveler. In one of her messages to the Guardian through [[Sloane]], [[Ahsa]] makes reference to "''two halves of a whole, long divided''," which in context seems to suggest that the Traveler and Veil were once part of a single entity, or at least share a common origin.


At some point, the Veil was discovered by an ancient humanoid civilization, who had previously found the Traveler half-buried on their homeworld and had since enjoyed a golden age that had lasted for eons. In their studies of the Traveler, the civilization had determined that it had a counterpart entity in a distant star system. They named this entity "the Veil," and discovered that it was associated with a [[Darkness|force]] opposite to that emanating from the Traveler, one linked to the mind and consciousness rather than the physical universe.
At some point, the Veil was discovered by an ancient humanoid civilization, who had previously found the Traveler half-buried on their homeworld and had since enjoyed a golden age that had lasted for eons. In their studies of the Traveler, the civilization had determined that it had a counterpart entity in a distant star system. They named this entity "the Veil," and discovered that it was associated with a [[Darkness|force]] opposite to that emanating from the Traveler, one linked to the mind and consciousness rather than the physical universe.
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===The Collapse===
===The Collapse===
During the [[Collapse]], the Disciple of the Witness known as Nezarec led the [[Black Fleet]]'s assault on Earth, and managed to secure the Veil aboard his [[Pyramid]]. However, he was betrayed by [[Savathûn]], who killed him, cursed his remains and spirited the Veil away to [[Neptune]]. Osiris speculated that Savathûn may have done this with the express intent of having the Ishtar Collective find the Veil when they subsequently visited the planet.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11qj6xw/raid_spoilers_the_origins_of_the_veil/</ref>
During the [[Collapse]], the Disciple of the Witness known as [[Nezarec]] led the [[Black Fleet]]'s assault on Earth, and managed to secure the Veil aboard his [[Pyramid]]. However, he was betrayed by [[Savathûn]], who killed him, cursed his remains and spirited the Veil away to [[Neptune]]. Osiris speculated that Savathûn may have done this with the express intent of having the Ishtar Collective find the Veil when they subsequently visited the planet.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11qj6xw/raid_spoilers_the_origins_of_the_veil/</ref>


It is implied that after the Collapse, the Sol Divisive created the Black Heart at the behest of the [[Witness]], as it hoped to use the Black Heart for the same purpose as the Veil. However, the Black Heart was seemingly a failed replica.
It is implied that after the Collapse, the Sol Divisive created the Black Heart at the behest of the [[Witness]], as it hoped to use the Black Heart for the same purpose as the Veil. However, the Black Heart was seemingly a failed replica.