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:There might be cognition and computation happening in the Stasis crystals: thoughts in the crystals themselves, in that short span between their creation and destruction. Tiny swarming minds created and annihilated in the detonation of a grenade. Maybe something to put Shimizu on…
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: Maybe something to put [[Hassan Shimizu|Shimizu]] on…
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:Thank you for writing back.Determination is a good word for it.
:Thank you for writing back. Determination is a good word for it.
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:You once told me that you consider VIP #2014 to be a real friend. Someone you trust implicitly. But #2014 was forced to use Stasis during the events on Europa. I know #2014 is just one of a number of powerful Guardians from the Cosmodrome cohort, but there’s no question they’re an influence on their peers. I hear gossip that #2014’s Ghost is overwhelmed sometimes by the need to support a Guardian who’s taken such huge risks. He tends to minimize his own needs, rather than push back. He’s barely even confided in other Ghosts about his own repeated possession by the intruders. Silence about such an invasive trauma? While he’s working with a Guardian who is constantly forced into close contact with the traumatizer? That worries me.
:You once told me that you consider [[The Guardian|VIP #2014]] to be a real friend. Someone you trust implicitly. But #2014 was forced to use Stasis during the events on Europa. I know #2014 is just one of a number of powerful Guardians from the Cosmodrome cohort, but there’s no question they’re an influence on their peers. I hear gossip that #2014’s Ghost is overwhelmed sometimes by the need to support a Guardian who’s taken such huge risks. He tends to minimize his own needs, rather than push back. He’s barely even confided in other Ghosts about his own repeated possession by the intruders. Silence about such an invasive trauma? While he’s working with a Guardian who is constantly forced into close contact with the traumatizer? That worries me.
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==<tt>CONSFACDORB JALAAL >> VANCINCLOCK IKORA REY</tt>==
==<tt>CONSFACDORB JALAAL >> VANCINCLOCK IKORA REY</tt>==
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:All right, I give up. We may have quit the Tower, but I still need your help.
:All right, I give up. We may have quit the [[Tower]], but I still need your help.
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:For three years, we’ve had our best analysts working on the documents slipped to a Guardian via the queen’s court—the so-called “Truth to Power” manuscripts. All we’ve got to show for it are burnt fingers and bad arguments.
:For three years, we’ve had our best analysts working on the documents slipped to a Guardian via the queen’s court—the so-called “[[Lore:Truth to Power|Truth to Power]]” manuscripts. All we’ve got to show for it are burnt fingers and bad arguments.
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:I appeal to the Hidden for help.
:I appeal to the [[The Hidden|Hidden]] for help.
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::•The author of all these documents is Savathûn.
::•The author of all these documents is [[Savathûn, the Witch Queen|Savathûn]].
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::•The documents are an extension of Savathûn’s strategy in the Dreaming City. They are cyclic, deceptive, and fond of the “you did exactly as I planned” mantra.
::•The documents are an extension of Savathûn’s strategy in the [[Dreaming City]]. They are cyclic, deceptive, and fond of the “you did exactly as I planned” mantra.
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::•The true message concerns (a) the importance of singularities in Savathûn’s personal cosmology and/or (b) instructions on how to mantle Savathûn.
::•The true message concerns (a) the importance of [[Wikipedia:singularity|singularities]] in Savathûn’s personal cosmology and/or (b) instructions on how to mantle Savathûn.
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:We’ve had ships sweeping the edge of the system for orbiting singularities. But we don’t know the mass of the Distributary, or Exodus Green’s outward vector at the time the Distributary formed. We don’t even know if the Distributary singularity inherited the Exodus Green’s vector—leaving it on an escape trajectory into interstellar space—or if it emerged at rest with respect to the Sun—meaning, it would fall directly towards the Sun and pass through it, over and over. Add the gravitational influence of the planets, and it could be anywhere by now. We’re looking for a microscopic point in a volume larger than the solar system. We thought about using fleets of sensor mites to search for a gravitational influence— but then we realized the Nine are in competition with us to find the singularity, and they would certainly use their phantom mass to interfere.
:We’ve had ships sweeping the edge of the system for orbiting singularities. But we don’t know the mass of the [[Distributary]], or [[Yang Liwei|Exodus Green]]'s outward vector at the time the Distributary formed. We don’t even know if the Distributary singularity inherited the Exodus Green’s vector—leaving it on an escape trajectory into interstellar space—or if it emerged at rest with respect to the Sun—meaning, it would fall directly towards the Sun and pass through it, over and over. Add the gravitational influence of the planets, and it could be anywhere by now. We’re looking for a microscopic point in a volume larger than the solar system. We thought about using fleets of sensor mites to search for a gravitational influence— but then we realized the [[The Nine|Nine]] are in competition with us to find the singularity, and they would certainly use their phantom mass to interfere.


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:This isn’t a [[Wikipedia:Matsuo Bashō|Basho]] [[Wikipedia:haiku|haiku]]. Purposefully making a suboptimal move in order to make a game more “interesting” is a misunderstanding of the nature of a game. There is no reward for beautiful play in the rules of the game
:This isn’t a Basho haiku. Purposefully making a suboptimal move in order to make a game more “interesting” is a misunderstanding of the nature of a game. There is no reward for beautiful play in the rules of the game
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:The Truth to Power documents are Dûl Incaru’s plea for her mother’s love. She wrote a biography of her mother, an attempt at understanding, in the hopes that Savathûn would also understand her. Imagine how lonely it would be to live in the High Coven, where everything, all communication, is deception. Imagine if your mother had never once told you the truth about anything.
:The Truth to Power documents are [[Dûl Incaru, the Eternal Return|Dûl Incaru]]'s plea for her mother’s love. She wrote a biography of her mother, an attempt at understanding, in the hopes that Savathûn would also understand her. Imagine how lonely it would be to live in the [[Court of Savathûn|High Coven]], where everything, all communication, is deception. Imagine if your mother had never once told you the truth about anything.
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:Think about logic. Here, we define logic as “the governing principle by which a power defines its own existence.” For example, the Hive practice sword logic.
:Think about logic. Here, we define logic as “the governing principle by which a power defines its own existence.” For example, the Hive practice [[Sword Logic|sword logic]].
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:Your centuries of defeatism have left you with a bad case of learned helplessness. The documents are full of possible misunderstandings. One misunderstanding is that they are pointless, just complexity for the sake of confusion. The threads about imbaru and power-from-confusion point this way. This is the stance that most
:Your centuries of defeatism have left you with a bad case of learned helplessness. The documents are full of possible misunderstandings. One misunderstanding is that they are pointless, just complexity for the sake of confusion. The threads about [[Imbaru|imbaru]] and power-from-confusion point this way. This is the stance that most


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:This is plainly foolish. The text is full of useful intelligence, including an excellent explanation of the Anthem Anatheme and an apparently accurate description of how Riven preyed on Guardians to create the curse.
:This is plainly foolish. The text is full of useful intelligence, including an excellent explanation of the [[Anthem Anatheme]] and an apparently accurate description of how [[Riven]] preyed on Guardians to create the curse.
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:Think before you laugh! The letters carefully establish a sense of shared physicality. The Eris voice asks you to center yourself in your breath and your body; it asks you to imagine her as a judoka, a swimmer, a football player. This is subtle work, Arach! It is the work of an alien that has taken on many forms and learned how to win trust in all of them.
:Think before you laugh! The letters carefully establish a sense of shared physicality. The [[Eris Morn|Eris]] voice asks you to center yourself in your breath and your body; it asks you to imagine her as a judoka, a swimmer, a football player. This is subtle work, Arach! It is the work of an alien that has taken on many forms and learned how to win trust in all of them.
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:The letters plead with us for compassion. Not-Eris describes herself as shy, pitiful, forlorn, afraid to share her true feelings for us. Not-Medusa pleads for help as she disintegrates. At the center, we find the clearest profession of love: “Thank you, sweet friend. You are a gift and a delight. You are more dear than my mother, for you have given birth to me a thousand times.”
:The letters plead with us for compassion. Not-Eris describes herself as shy, pitiful, forlorn, afraid to share her true feelings for us. Not-[[Medusa]] pleads for help as she disintegrates. At the center, we find the clearest profession of love: “Thank you, sweet friend. You are a gift and a delight. You are more dear than my mother, for you have given birth to me a thousand times.”
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:Are you implying that we created Savathûn by imagining her? That her presence in the Books of Sorrow, and all the things she’s done throughout more than a billion years of time, were caused by us reading the Truth to Power manuscript?
:Are you implying that we created Savathûn by imagining her? That her presence in the [[Books of Sorrow]], and all the things she’s done throughout more than a billion years of time, were caused by us reading the Truth to Power manuscript?
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:If this is what the Light does to a mind, I’m glad I was never chosen.
:If this is what the [[Light]] does to a mind, I’m glad I was never chosen.
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:No, I don’t think that’s the right answer. Her spawning on Fundament was only one of her births. She says it herself. “You have given birth to me a thousand times.”
:No, I don’t think that’s the right answer. Her spawning on [[Fundament]] was only one of her births. She says it herself. “You have given birth to me a thousand times.”
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:Black holes. Vex simulations. Ahamkara. Manipulations of Hive tribute. So our answer must involve all four of those.
:[[Wikipedia:black hole|Black holes]]. [[Vex]] simulations. [[Ahamkara]]. Manipulations of Hive tribute. So our answer must involve all four of those.
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:The skulls of dire Ahamkara speak to me. They know I want to know the truth, and so they whisper to me of a path they climb. They call it the Anathematic Arc.
:The [[Skull of Dire Ahamkara|skulls of dire Ahamkara]] speak to me. They know I want to know the truth, and so they whisper to me of a path they climb. They call it the Anathematic Arc.


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:Oh, don’t be so timid! An Arach of Dead Orbit driven to despair by the thought of other universes, when you should know the lore of Hubble volumes and Tegmark hierarchies by heart!
:Oh, don’t be so timid! An Arach of [[Dead Orbit]] driven to despair by the thought of other universes, when you should know the lore of [[Wikipedia:Hubble volume|Hubble volumes]] and [[Wikipedia:Max Tegmark|Tegmark hierarchies]] by heart!
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:The Pathria-Good black hole cosmogenesis principle of Golden Age physics confirms that the interior of a black hole is a new universe: all black holes produce their own interior cosmos. All cosmos, including our own, are probably the interior of a black hole in a parent universe.
:The [[Wikipedia:Black hole cosmology|Pathria-Good black hole cosmogenesis principle]] of [[Golden Age]] physics confirms that the interior of a black hole is a new universe: all black holes produce their own interior cosmos. All cosmos, including our own, are probably the interior of a black hole in a parent universe.
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:At first, Eris is real. Then we learn Eris’s voice is a deception by Medusa. Then we learn Medusa is nested inside Quria. Then
:At first, Eris is real. Then we learn Eris’s voice is a deception by Medusa. Then we learn Medusa is nested inside [[Quria, Blade Transform|Quria]]. Then


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:Oh. I see. I see! A literary structure like that is called a chiasmus, and chiasmus means “crossing point”! Like a wormhole or a portal! It was hidden in plain sight.
:Oh. I see. I see! A literary structure like that is called a [[Wikipedia:chiasmus|chiasmus]], and chiasmus means “crossing point”! Like a [[Wikipedia:wormhole|wormhole]] or a portal! It was hidden in plain sight.
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:It’s all beside the point anyway. She may have already accomplished what she wanted. Some damn fool Guardian carried out her instructions on a dare. I don’t know why she wanted a powerful Guardian to destroy her daughter in the ruins of Mara’s throne. But she wanted it to happen. And I’m guessing the effects weren’t felt here.
:It’s all beside the point anyway. She may have already accomplished what she wanted. Some damn fool Guardian carried out her instructions on a dare. I don’t know why she wanted a powerful Guardian to destroy her daughter in the [[The Shattered Throne|ruins of Mara’s throne]]. But she wanted it to happen. And I’m guessing the effects weren’t felt here<ref>[https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/48423/ On the Power Climb]</ref>.
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:Of course, Savathûn is still with us. She walked among us as Osiris; she tricked us into removing her worm; she hasn’t vanished into some higher reality. I do not think she built a wormhole into another universe and walked through it—although her intrigues with the Nine have focused on creating singularities from dark matter.
:Of course, Savathûn is still with us. She walked among us as [[Osiris]]; she tricked us into removing her [[Savathûn's Worm|worm]]; she hasn’t vanished into some higher reality. I do not think she built a wormhole into another universe and walked through it—although her intrigues with the Nine have focused on creating [[Unknown Space|singularities from dark matter]].
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:The Light is noncomputable. It can’t be simulated in conventional physics. That proves that any universe with the Light cannot be a simulation. Our universe can contain simulations, but it cannot be one.
:The Light is [[Paracausality|noncomputable]]. It can’t be simulated in conventional physics. That proves that any universe with the Light cannot be a simulation. Our universe can contain simulations, but it cannot be one.
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