Porplemontage's board-to-board with CraZboy557

Damnit, I was worried that would sound like sarcasm.

Just leave it alone, please.

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I'm now sort of stuck between going with the semi-confirmed name, or what everyone actually calls it.....

I don't think so. The controller layout has shown that aiming down sights is not a proper noun.

Well that begs an answer to my previous question: Are technical terms proper nouns?

I don't think that's really necessary. Since it's not a proper noun, it's not a "fixed phrase". That's all there is to it.

I've just always used ADS in that manner, I assumed others did as well, though maybe I'm wrong. Shall we put it up to a vote on the talk page?

I know for a fact it's not a proper noun in the context of Destiny, so the grammar in the article must make sense. Technically it's still about the action because Bungie is treating it as an action and not a special phrase.

L2 is "Aim down sights", while you hold L2 you're aiming down sights. Triangle is "Switch weapons", when your press it your character begins switching weapons. If Bungie doesn't treat ADS as a special phrase then we don't have to. I wouldn't look at that and try to write an article about Switching weapons and be like "When the player uses Switch weapons, blah blah..." It would just sound like "When the player switches weapons, blah blah...". So that's what I mean when I say the grammar must make sense; don't treat "aim down sights" like it's a phrase that can't be altered, it's really an action.

YES, it's a gameplay mechanic and action. But there's nothing special about the phrase. Just like if we considered "Switch weapons" a gameplay mechanic we wouldn't be afraid to alter the wording like I described.

So, looking at the recent history... I guess I convinced you?

I have to disagree. I feel the page is for the gameplay mechanic of Aim Down Sights, not the action of aiming down your sights.

The title of the page is not the term, it's the action.

I was sort of ok with the change in capitalization, but the term is Aim Down Sights. I'll have to object to changing it to "aiming".

I moved it again to the more natural/readable Aiming down sights. The capitalization of "Aim Down Sights" seemed out of place to me, but then "Aim down sights" wasn't really readable. I think titles like that should be a phrase of what the player is doing. For example: What is the player doing? Aiming down sights. This is not an exact science but I'm happy with the page now.

Noticed your change to ADS. I think it should probably be capitalised, but that depends on whether or not technical terms are proper nouns.

Good call.

You're still the only Mod on here, right? We still need to get rid of that turret page.

Got it.

I deleted the page because it had no content. By all means create it again; it just can't be a completely empty page.

Not sure if sure if Deleting Charlemane's Vault was a good idea.... I'm fairly certain it's a separate thing from a Warmind, though I'd have to check those articles and that mailsack again to be sure.

Thanks! I'll make edits and link to it.

Ok, Destinypedia:New User Guide is up and running. It's likely the parts near the end will need some patching up, I was getting kinda hungry at that point.

Just create the page and I'll read it with the proper formatting.

of fucking course it doesn't save the lines I went down.

Awright, how should we do this?

Ok, I think I'm done. I have made the page yet, I figured I'd let you take a look first.

Here it is in wiki code, so you can just copy it onto the actual page so that A: it won't be crammed into a message, and so that B: If it's good, you can save the page then and there.

Ok, first let me say, welcome to Destinypedia. Thanks for joining, as long as you follow the guidelines in place for editing pages I'm sure you'll do great and help make our wiki as comprehensive as possible. Now, about this page. Like most things on computers, you can just hit buttons that look like they do what you want and you'll do a bang up job on here. However, there tends to be some things you might not notice for a while, and they're quite helpful. So, if you're new to editing a wiki, on this page, I intend to clue you in on those pages so you can get their information as soon as possible, as opposed to after a few months when someone mentions them in passing. I don't intend to get too in depth, this is just telling what these things do and where to find them, not too much on how to use them. You can probably figure the rest out yourself, or just ask someone for help if you're having trouble. I want this to be a fairly quick read so that you can just give it a quick read and know enough to figure out how to use these handy features, and so that less people will look at it and be put off by how big it is. ==Help== By now, you've probably seen the help button on that bar to the left. In case you haven't, there you go. I'd definitely recomend checking that out every once in a while. For example, the editing section will teach you a lot about wiki code, links will show you how to link to other pages and other sites, and images will show you how to put images on pages. Whenever you're stumped about how to do something on here, go check the help section and it should tell you what you need to know. It doesn't cover everything, admittedly, but when that happens you can always count on your fellow Guardians for advice. ==Editing Toolbar== Ok, that last one was pretty obvious, here's one that will probably take you a bit to notice. At the top of every page here, there's a sort of toolbar. It might vary if you're on a type of page other than a regular wikipage, but on every wikipage it will be the same. There will be several tabs saying "Article," "Discussion," "Edit," "History," and "More Actions". Each article has a unique version for all of these, though their function is the same for all articles. ===Article=== Clicking article will take you to the main article, which is probably where you'll be when you try this out. Obvious enough. ===Discussion=== Discussion is a page for discussing information about the subject of the article. Note: it's not a forum. You're not supposed to talk about whether you like this thing or not, it's for facts. If you disagree with something major about the page, bring it up here, discuss it, and see what other people think. Edit opens up the editor for the article. Pretty self explanatory. ===History=== History is a something I don't suspect you'll use if you're one of those guys who pops up here, makes three edits, and then is never seen again. However, if you stick around for a while, this is a handy tool. It allows you to view older edits, compare them, view changes, and revert the article to an older edit. History is a bit more complicated than some of the other things on this list, but you should still be able to figure it out. ===Edit=== Edit allows you to edit the article. Simple enough. I suppose I should mention that this allows you to edit the entire article, as opposed to just individual sections, one at a time. ===More Actions=== More actions contains Move, View links, and Watch. View links shows what pages link to the pag you're on, Watch will add the article to you watchlist, which means you'll be notified if there is an edit to the article. Move allows you to functionally rename an article. Do not, do so lightly, it's a bit of a big deal. ==Forums== Remember that sidebar the Help section is on? Move up a section and you'll see community. Hover over that, and in the section that opens up you'll see several things, among which is forums. There are three forum sections: General Discussion, Community Proposal, and Support Requests. They're all pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. General discusssion is for talking about anything Destiny related, from lore to gameplay to hype. Support Requests are for asking for help. Community Proposal is for suggesting something fairly big for the community and/or the wiki. ==Profile== So, assumong you've made an account and you're not just a guest, if you look in the very top right you should be able to a thing that says "Welcome, (Username)!", and a button that says logout and a button that says profile. If you click on profile, you'll be taken... to your profile. There are three parts to your profile: Your userpage, your userwiki, and your usertalk. You also have a signature, but that's just barely unimportant enough for me to exclude it from this. There's a help page for it, or you can just message someone. ===Userpage=== Your userpage contains your board, your edit counts, your friends... and a few more things as well. However, you might not have set it up yet. If you want to, just click on Edit Profile and fill in whatever you feel like filling out. Also, your board is your inbox. If anyone messages you, it'll show up on your board. Just be careful not to go onto someone else's page and mistake their board for yours. ===Userwiki=== Your userwiki is sort of like a private wikipage. Actually, that's pretty much what it is. It works just like a regular wikipage, but it can only be edited by you. Generally, it's used by people a bit more familliar with wiki code who want a more personalised profile. ===Usertalk=== You usertalk is an alternative to your board. It can be edited by anyone, and its used to leave messages for you. It's not used especially often, but it has the advantage of being able to hold a conversation between more than two people without having to message each person individually. ==Special Pages== At the bottom of every page on this site, there are six links: Main Page, About, Special pages, Help, Privacy policy, and discalimers. There are four parts of Special Pages I'll be covering: the Maintenence Reports section, recent changes, upload file, and preferences. If you're curious about making a signature you can find it in here as well under the section Users and Rights, in the page Preferences. ===Maintenence Reports=== Not every part of this section is going to be important to you, but in general the pages in this section list problems with the wiki. Wanted pages, stubs, not enough citations, ect. If you can't find something to edit, then give this section a quick check. ===Recent Changes=== Scroll down and find the Recent Changes and Logs section, and inside it you can find Recent Changes. It's sort of like a history page for the entire wiki. Anyone edits a page or adds a picture or sends a message or does whatever, and it ends up here. It shows most recent first, and it's a good way to stay on top of anything going on in the wiki. A common use for it is checking some of the pages that have been edited, and making sure noone took away anything useful or adding anything incorrect. ===Upload File=== One section down, you can find Media Files and Uploads. In this section, you can find the upload files page. Use this to upload images. A link to this can also be found on the images help page. You can upload from your computer or from an image page on a website. <!--Not sure if that's the right term--> ==Aaaaand, I guess that's it.== Welp, I hope this page helped! Like I said, it's not a comprehensive guide, it's just meant to let you know these useful things are here, and it doesn't really walk you through any of the things mentioned so as to keep it brief. If you need help with anything just message one of the senior memebers of the wiki. Good luck!

Aright. Welp, Im'na go finish it up now.