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{{Quote| ''There are those who see the Void as dark. It is the folly of the simple mind, unable to perceive the brilliant richness of nothingness. The Void is not only the absence of Light, but Dark. To harness the Void is to enter a state of tranquility, free from the clatter of ordinary matter.'' |Unknown [[Voidwalker]]}} | {{Quote| ''There are those who see the Void as dark. It is the folly of the simple mind, unable to perceive the brilliant richness of nothingness. The Void is not only the absence of Light, but Dark. To harness the Void is to enter a state of tranquility, free from the clatter of ordinary matter.'' |Unknown [[Voidwalker]]}} | ||
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*[[Tyra Karn]] describes it being the vacuum between stars during the Shard of the Traveler [[Voidwalker]] mission. | *[[Tyra Karn]] describes it being the vacuum between stars during the Shard of the Traveler [[Voidwalker]] mission. | ||
*According to Toland, the Void is not the Darkness, The Void is like Light seen through a prism, vacuum between stars and absence of everything else. Meaning the Quantum Vacuum.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/complete-the-path-6?highlight=Void+vacuum Complete the Path-6]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/savin?highlight=Quantum Savin]</ref> | *According to Toland, the Void is not the Darkness, The Void is like Light seen through a prism, vacuum between stars and absence of everything else. Meaning the Quantum Vacuum.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/complete-the-path-6?highlight=Void+vacuum Complete the Path-6]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/savin?highlight=Quantum Savin]</ref> | ||
*A Voidwalker states that the Void is not only the absence of Light, but Darkness and matter too, that feeling it is not charitable or malicious, that it should be respected.<ref>[ | *A Voidwalker states that the Void is not only the [https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/apotheosis-veil?highlight=Veil absence of Light, but Darkness and matter too], that feeling it is not charitable or malicious, that it should be respected.<ref>[]</ref> | ||
*Ikora states that the Void remains as one of the most | *Ikora states that the Void remains as one of the most [https://www.ishtar-collective.net/interactions/ikora-rey-gazing-into-the-abyss?highlight=Void+particles uniquely perplexing manifestations of the Light].<ref>[]</ref> | ||
*Despite it not being Darkness, [[Eris Morn]], [[Osiris]] and [[The Drifter ( | *Despite it not being Darkness, [[Eris Morn]], [[Osiris]] and [[The Drifter (character)|Drifter]] it does have an influence on the Void as well.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/make-hole?highlight=void+dark Make Hole]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/elemental-competitor?highlight=elements+darkness Elemental Competitor]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/refining-the-recaster?highlight=drifter+elements Refining the recaster]</ref> | ||
===A Means of traveling to or creating other places and realities=== | ===A Means of traveling to or creating other places and realities=== | ||
[[The Traveler]] is said to be able to travel through the Void to other places in the universe | The [[The Traveler|Traveler]] is said to be able to travel through the Void to other places in the universe. It is also described as the infinities between spaces.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/voidwalker?highlight=Voidwalker Voidwalker]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/orpheus-rig?highlight=The+Void Orpheus Rig]</ref> | ||
Eons beyond the void lies other worlds, and that there are items that lets them access, there are even times where one is annihilated down to their particles and pulled through the void from one place to another reality.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/eye-of-another-world?highlight=The+Void Eye of Another World]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/the-witch?highlight=The+Void the Witch | Eons beyond the void lies other worlds, and that there are items that lets them access, there are even times where one is annihilated down to their particles and pulled through the void from one place to another reality.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/eye-of-another-world?highlight=The+Void Eye of Another World]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/the-witch?highlight=The+Void the Witch]</ref> | ||
Light is connected across time and space, those who stared into the Void are unbound by them. This would also be proven to be accurate how the | This would make sense with how Light is connected across time and space, those who stared into the Void are unbound by them. This would also be proven to be accurate how the Ward of Dawn is described to create a pocket in the universe], which they create their own universes inside the sphere, and how the animation of it shows a small vortex at the bottom that drew in matter and spat out orbs of light inside the Ward. And there is [[Ikora Rey|Ikora]] during Curse of Osiris using Void energy to open up a Vex Gateway (and from center outward like how Void involves the infinities between space) which would have similarities with the Vex Simulations below.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/voidwalker?highlight=Time+space+void Voidwalker]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ward-of-dawn?highlight=Pocket+universe Ward of Dawn]</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/8qELFXaIVVQ Curse of Osirs]</ref> | ||
===Guardians using the Void & | ===Guardians using the Void & It’s Affect=== | ||
It is even described as being something that is addicting, that it was easy to use, but to let go was hard, to open a hole with the Void, and draw from the deep], described as being heavy too and addictive], and hardly noticeable. Much like the [[Shadowshot|Shadowshots]] used by [[Nightstalker]]. [[Variks]], The Loyal once asked if whether the Guardians really control the Void, or if the Void controls them. Voidwalkers are described to be able to tear reality apart with the powers of the Void.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/the-nightstalkers-trail?highlight=The+Void the Nightstalker's Trail]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/ruinous-effigy?highlight=Ruinous Ruinous Effigy]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/nightstalker?highlight=The+Void Nightstalker]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/queens-curse?highlight=The+Void Queen's Curse]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/shadowshot?highlight=The+Void Shadowshot]</ref> | |||
All Guardians are able to access the Void through using their Light-based powers, and are able to experience the Void through meditating. The Void has been said to have a faint scent of ozone associated with it. A person said that the void is not special, just show it respect and | All Guardians are able to access the Void through using their Light-based powers, and are able to experience the Void through meditating, This would be further supported on how the Void freed the mind of individuals. The Void has been said to have a faint scent of ozone associated with it. A person said that the void is not special, just show it respect and you’ve got nothing to worry about.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/12-margins-part-i?highlight=The+Void Margins Part I]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/wild-hunt-hood?highlight=void+mind Wild Hunt Hood]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/scent-of-the-void?highlight=The+Void Scent of the Void]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/shard-of-the-traveler-nightstalker?highlight=Void transcript Shard of the Traveler Nightstalker]</ref> | ||
===Spiritual Aspect=== | ===Spiritual Aspect=== | ||
Tyra Karn said that in ancient times, Shamans were the original practitioners of the Void, and Guardians who uses the Light refined their methods. And Some of their abilities would | Tyra Karn said that in ancient times, Shamans were the original practitioners of the Void, and Guardians who uses the Light refined their methods. And Some of their abilities would support this like Life Steal or Soul Rip.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/shard-of-the-traveler-voidwalker?highlight=Shamans transcript Shard of the Traveler]</ref><ref>[https://www.destinygamewiki.com/wiki/Life_Steal#:~:text=Life%20Steal%20is%20a%20perk,if%20you're%20taking%20damage. Life Steal]</ref><ref>[https://www.destinygamewiki.com/wiki/Soul_Rip Soul Rip]</ref> | ||
The [[Thanatonaut|Thanatonauts]] say that the Void is a place between the moment of death and rebirth, the "pause", and that one should not fear death when they enter the Void. | The [[Thanatonaut|Thanatonauts]] say that the Void is a place between the moment of death and rebirth, the "pause", and that one should not fear death when they enter the Void. This would match what the Hive believe when they tried to call on the dead [[Hive]] gods from the Void (When they were absent with Guardians stealing [[Crota]]’s Soul and [[Oryx]] binding himself to [[Touch of Malice]]).<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/harnessing-the-void?highlight=The+Voidbriefest Harnessing the Void]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/ophidian-aspect?highlight=void Ophidian Aspect]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/heretic?highlight=Chaos+void Heretic]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/last-rites?highlight=Crota+soul transcript Last Rights]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/touch-of-malice?highlight=Touch+of+malice Touch of Malice]</ref> | ||
===Other Races interaction=== | |||
*The [[Vex]] are even able to have access to the Void too, through the means existing in time, like how [[The Undying Mind|The Undying Minds]] dwell within those voids, and how they can take the desired locations and remove them from the universe into the Void. The [[Vault of Glass]] is described as "Timeless" and how Guardians that enter it are "Marked by the Void", and can mark others with the void too outside the vault. Even Realities were they have the void at their edges, which is described as black nothingness, similar to the Debuff “Marked by the Void”, like how the [[Apotheosis Veil]] exotic describes too. And their means of traveling from simulations to realities are through the Quantum Vacuum, the same means which is the Void.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/the-undying-mind-2?highlight=The+Void The Undying Mind 2]</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/c2NtI4o-SMU?t=122 Destiny 1 Memories]</ref><ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/wild-hunt-cloak?highlight=Black+void Wild Hunt Cloak]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/volitive?highlight=void+vex Volitive]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/apotheosis-veil?highlight=Veil Apotheosis Veil]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/tractor-cannon?highlight=Quantum Tractor Cannon]</ref> | |||
*The [[Vex]] are able to have access to the Void too, through the means existing in time, like how [[The Undying Mind|The Undying Minds]] dwell within those voids, and how they can take the desired locations and remove them from the universe into the Void. The [[ | |||
*The Hive are capable of influencing the Void, such as how [[Savathûn]] uses one of her long claws to stroke the Void and space-time groans beneath it. [[Taox]] said that their race escaped The Hungry Void to the planet [[Fundament]]. The Hive seem to be drawn to the masters of the Void too. This led the former Cabal Emperor Calus to hope that a Voidwalker might be able to lead them as one of his Shadows.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xliv-strict-proof-eternal?highlight=The+Void XLIV-strict-proof-eternal]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/iv-syzygy?highlight=The+void IV-syzygy]</ref><ref> [https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/shadows-gloves?highlight=void Shadows Gloves]</ref> | *The Hive are capable of influencing the Void too, such as how [[Savathûn]] uses one of her long claws to stroke the Void and space-time groans beneath it. [[Taox]] said that their race escaped The Hungry Void to the planet [[Fundament]]. The Hive seem to be drawn to the masters of the Void too]. This led the former Cabal Emperor Calus to hope that a Voidwalker might be able to lead them as one of his Shadows.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xliv-strict-proof-eternal?highlight=The+Void XLIV-strict-proof-eternal]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/iv-syzygy?highlight=The+void IV-syzygy]</ref><ref> [https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/shadows-gloves?highlight=void Shadows Gloves]</ref> | ||
*[[Servitor|Servitors]] of the [[Fallen]] Houses are able to sense disturbances in the Void; when [[Mara Sov]] released her Harbingers on the [[House of Wolves]], their Servitors reported a "strange taste in the Void" when the [[Harbinger|Harbringers]] attacked. Variks stated that the Eliksni are capable of using the Void as well, but in a different manner from Guardians.<ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-fallen-4?highlight=Taste+void Ghost Fragment Fallen 4]</ref><ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/europan-gravity?highlight=Eliksni+void Europan Gravity]</ref> | *[[Servitor|Servitors]] of the [[Fallen]] Houses are able to sense disturbances in the Void; when [[Mara Sov]] released her Harbingers on the [[House of Wolves]], their Servitors reported a "strange taste in the Void" when the [[Harbinger|Harbringers]] attacked. Variks stated that the Eliksni are capable of using the Void as well, but in a different manner from Guardians.<ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-fallen-4?highlight=Taste+void Ghost Fragment Fallen 4]</ref><ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/europan-gravity?highlight=Eliksni+void Europan Gravity]</ref> | ||
*Former [[Cabal]] Emperor [[Calus]] once stared into the infinite void and how he described that it stared back at him, that he would become it's herald for when it comes to consume the universe once and for all. He also went on to describe it as the nothing, the absence of anything, which matches what other individuals described about the void, and how | *Former [[Cabal]] Emperor [[Calus]] once stared into the infinite void and how he described that it stared back at him, that he would become it's herald for when it comes to consume the universe once and for all. He also went on to describe it as the nothing, the absence of anything, which matches what other individuals described about the void, and how the anomaly he visits in [[Solar System|Sol System]] tears away at reality.<ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/it-stared-back?highlight=the+void It Stared Back It Stared Back]</ref><ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/dlxxix?highlight=Absence DLXXIX]</ref><ref>[[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/warped-armlet?highlight=Absence Warped Armlet]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/entry-8-acherons-wall?highlight=anomaly+ ENTRY 8 - Acheron's Wall] | ||
===Powers & Abilities=== | ===Powers & Abilities=== | ||
Some items can draw upon the essence of the Void when a Guardian dies and resurrects, to be used against their enemies. When there is little Light to draw on in certain areas, items like the [[Orpheus Rig]] can draw power from the Void for their abilities. <ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/mask-of-the-quiet-one?highlight=the+void Mask of the Quiet One]</ref> | Some items can draw upon the essence of the Void when a Guardian dies and resurrects, to be used against their enemies. When there is little Light to draw on in certain areas, items like the [[Orpheus Rig]] can draw power from the Void for their abilities. <ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/mask-of-the-quiet-one?highlight=the+void Mask of the Quiet One]</ref> | ||
Some Guardians like [[Pahanin]] are described as the living embodiments of the Void, that where he points, even [[Ahamkara]] dies.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/age-old-bond?highlight=The+Void]</ref> | Some Guardians like [[Pahanin]] are described as the living embodiments of the Void, that where he points, even [[Ahamkara]] dies.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/age-old-bond?highlight=The+Void]</ref> | ||
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Ikora stated that the Void is negation, and Guardians would become the ultimate negators, this would make sense with some of the Guardians abilities such as [[Titan]]'s Suppression Grenades and Shadowshots which negates the abilities of their enemies. With using a Vortex Grenade, the target gets enveloped by the Void and is ripped apart and eaten away by it. And [[Warlock|Warlocks]] and [[Hunter|Hunters]] can rip holes in space to leap between point A to B.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/talk-to-ikora-23?highlight=negation Talk to Ikora]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/tomorrows-answer?highlight=The+void Tomorrows Answers]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/blink?highlight=blink Blink]</ref> | Ikora stated that the Void is negation, and Guardians would become the ultimate negators, this would make sense with some of the Guardians abilities such as [[Titan]]'s Suppression Grenades and Shadowshots which negates the abilities of their enemies. With using a Vortex Grenade, the target gets enveloped by the Void and is ripped apart and eaten away by it. And [[Warlock|Warlocks]] and [[Hunter|Hunters]] can rip holes in space to leap between point A to B.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/talk-to-ikora-23?highlight=negation Talk to Ikora]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/tomorrows-answer?highlight=The+void Tomorrows Answers]</ref><ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/blink?highlight=blink Blink]</ref> | ||
Other abilities includes, [[Minotaur| | Other abilities includes, [[Minotaur|Minotaur’s]] Exotic Particle weaponry, Servitor’s Void Shielding and projection, Hive Arcana and Soulfire weaponry, [[Psion|Psion’s]] Psychic powers. | ||
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*During [[Festival of the Lost]], when delivering Elemental Candy called | ==Other Info== | ||
*During [[Festival of the Lost]], when delivering Elemental Candy called “Void Fizz” to Eris Morn, she states that it is “A strange way to exploit the power of the Void“.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/interactions/eris-morn-the-dance-of-my-people?highlight=The+void Interaction, Eris Morn the Dance of my People]</ref> | |||
*[[Banshee-44]] used to know something really important about the Void, but due to his short term memory, it is likely impossible. (''This is likely referencing to his time battling against the Vex at the Portal on [[Europa]]'')<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/void-calibration-2?highlight=The+void Void Calibration]</ref> | *[[Banshee-44]] used to know something really important about the Void, but due to his short term memory, it is likely impossible. (''This is likely referencing to his time battling against the Vex at the Portal on [[Europa]]'')<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/items/void-calibration-2?highlight=The+void Void Calibration]</ref> | ||
*The [[Ghost]] stated that [[Taken]] Vex are "''Void Robots''", this could be an indication of what the Taken are, or how most of the Taken Vex weapons are void base.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/quest-calculated-action-dynasty?highlight=suppress Quest: Calculated Action Dynasty]</ref> | *The [[Ghost]] stated that [[Taken]] Vex are "''Void Robots''", this could be an indication of what the Taken are, or how most of the Taken Vex weapons are void base.<ref>[https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/quest-calculated-action-dynasty?highlight=suppress Quest: Calculated Action Dynasty]</ref> | ||
==List of appearances== | ==List of appearances== |