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{{quote|++WHO ARE YOU THAT BUILDS A HIDDEN CITY HERE IN OUR THOUGHTS?++|The Ancients to [[Mara Sov]], speaking through three possessed [[Techeun]]s.}} | {{quote|++WHO ARE YOU THAT BUILDS A HIDDEN CITY HERE IN OUR THOUGHTS?++|The Ancients to [[Mara Sov]], speaking through three possessed [[Techeun]]s.}} | ||
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The nature of the Ancients is unclear, but they refer to themselves as being "the nothing-space fabric," and appear to be intimately connected to the space within which the [[Dreaming City]] is located. | The nature of the Ancients is unclear, but they refer to themselves as being "the nothing-space fabric," and appear to be intimately connected to the space within which the [[Dreaming City]] is located. | ||
The Ancients are known to have contacted Awoken civilization at least once, after the construction of the [[Dreaming City]]. On this occasion, they took possession of three [[Techeuns]], including [[Kelda Wadj]], and addressed Queen [[Mara Sov]].<ref name="Oracle">'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]] | ==History== | ||
The Ancients are known to have contacted Awoken civilization at least once, after the construction of the [[Dreaming City]]. On this occasion, they took possession of three [[Techeuns]], including [[Kelda Wadj]], and addressed Queen [[Mara Sov]].<ref name="Oracle">'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Lore:The_Dreaming_City#Oracle|The Dreaming City - Oracle]]''</ref> | |||
==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
*The way that the speech of the Ancients is written down, with double "+" signs and capital letters is similar to how the [[Leviathan (Fundament)|Leviathan]] spoke with [[Aurash]], [[Xi Ro]] and [[Sathona]] in the [[Books of Sorrow]]. This could indicate some connection between the two. | *The way that the speech of the Ancients is written down, with double "+" signs and capital letters is similar to how the [[Leviathan (Fundament)|Leviathan]] spoke with [[Aurash]], [[Xi Ro]] and [[Sathona]] in the [[Books of Sorrow]]. This could indicate some connection between the two. | ||
**It is worth noting that the Leviathan's dialogue normally had double "-" signs (which the Ancients' dialogue did not use) at one end of a sentence, and two "+" signs at the other end; however, when it wanted to add emphasis to a statement, the signs would match on both ends. The Leviathan described this as a "monopole scream". | **It is worth noting that the Leviathan's dialogue normally had double "-" signs (which the Ancients' dialogue did not use) at one end of a sentence, and two "+" signs at the other end; however, when it wanted to add emphasis to a statement, the signs would match on both ends. The Leviathan described this as a "monopole scream". | ||
*According to [[Shuro Chi]], Techeuns wear crystals to augment their innate powers. Amethysts, in particular, are good for communing with the Ancients.<ref name="Aguments">'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]] | *According to [[Shuro Chi]], Techeuns wear crystals to augment their innate powers. Amethysts, in particular, are good for communing with the Ancients.<ref name="Aguments">'''Bungie (2018/9/4)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [https://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/pilgrimage-spine-of-keres-wall Pilgrimages: Spine of Keres, Wall]''</ref> | ||
*It is possible that the Ancients are in some way related to the [[Nine]], given their similar abilities and speech. | *It is possible that the Ancients are in some way related to the [[Nine]], given their similar abilities and speech. | ||
**While the Nine are all singular consciousnesses centered around the celestial bodies of Sol, it is possible that there could have been a tenth member: the mass of the asteroid belt that was broken up before it could form into a fifth terrestrial planet. When the Queen asks | **While the Nine are all singular consciousnesses centered around the celestial bodies of Sol, it is possible that there could have been a tenth member: the mass of the asteroid belt that was broken up before it could form into a fifth terrestrial planet. When the Queen asks their identity, they chastise her for believing they are a singular speaker and note it is 'ekpyrosic', a term referring to the Stoic belief of Ekpyrosis in which the universe would be destroyed to make way for a new one. While the destruction of the belt prevented the formation of another singular being, the sheer mass of material could have created a collective of consciousnesses separate but not entirely distinct from those of the Nine. | ||
**The Ancients display extensive knowledge about the system and the paracausal entities within, the same as the Nine, offering it to the Awoken in the form of the [[Oracle Engine]]. | **The Ancients display extensive knowledge about the system and the paracausal entities within, the same as the Nine, offering it to the Awoken in the form of the [[Oracle Engine]]. | ||
==List of appearances== | ==List of appearances== | ||
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==References== | ==References== | ||
